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I will take a bite! A no to SWLF.

Unfortunately the letter was opened by another person and there method is to rip open the other smaller end. At least I get the stamp and postmark intact!

I really like this postmark. The roos attract me. Found it in some recent kiloware. My postmark collection is slowly growing & I am enjoying it all to the max.

Hehehe,
good on ya!

Nice to see a Perth CDS on that last stamp
Up the Sandgropers!

It's an Australian cancellation - try following up on the "Sydney West Letter Facility". Here's one example of usage.

http://www.returnedmail.net/2007/an...tarctica.htm

Ryan

Bravo! Ryan,
that has been irritating me for a while :)
well solved.

Bavaria star or mill-wheel cancel.

This is my first one of these. I don't mind the close-cut and knawed upon aspects of this. I like the simple design and the super cancel.I saw the cancel browsing ebay one evening and was hooked.

I have yet to figure out which city 145 is from. There are supposedly 2000 different number cancels of this type.

I think this is from the 1862 printing because the centre circle around the numeral is complete and not too big for the stamp and thus making a broken circle as on earlier printings. I need to get to a library Scott catalog sometime and do some photo-copying. Michel would be better I suppose but I don't believe we have one here.


The red line through the back of the stamp is a security device, a silk thread.

Bavaria was the first German State to begin stamp production, and the ninth country in the world to do so.
From http://www.stampcollectingblog.com/...a-stamps.php

Nice interest piece Puzzler,
look forward to further info, if/when you find it.

I have only one in my collection,
sorry about the lousy scan, probably scanned
10 years ago, your commentary explains why I have
written "circle cut" otherwise I had forgotten
all about that.
Number is "479"

Rod, your 3 Kr blue (dark?, royal?) is in a lot better shape than my little old 9 Kr but I bought it cheap just to see what it looked like in person. Now I have it I like it and want more. I like the cancel on yours also, nice and sharp and striking colour also.

I hope I can get more of these. I was looking around and mostly they sell for more than I would have thought. Well, I didn't think at first, my usual problem.

I read that 2000 figure somewhere, but now, a bit later when I am thinking about it, how can there be 2000 numbers? They say there were two distributions of the closed mill-wheel and one of the open mill-wheel version (and I am not sure which is which of those yet) so a town could have as many as three numbers. Confusing a bit. I need more data.

There are some special catalogues on earlier Bavaria that have a complete list of the numerals but they are beyond my price range at the moment. I will have to be happy with searching around on the net until I find a cancel that is named in the sale. Scott catalogue is a basic start I guess. hey, these are old enough that they would be in my Maury 1894 catalogue.

Copied from somewhere on the net:
Billig's Philatelic Handbook vol. 19
"Altdeutsche Staaten Spezialkatalog" by Thomas Henke
"Bayern Spezialkatalog Band 1" by Peter Sem
Presumbly the Grobe catalog would also have the complete
liat.

That stamp will be buried somewhere in the attic,Puzzler,
for the first 6 years of collecting, I just scanned stamps
and put into boxes, goodness knows where it will be.

I have a very old Basel auction catalogue,
there are bound to be material there, I'll hunt it up
and post some scans today.

Rod, I am sorry if I gave the impression I wanted your stamp. I mean, I do want it , but it is yours so I cannot have it, if you take my meaning. I was just admiring it and drooling.

Thank you for any extra info you have.

My old 1894 catalog has just the basics of each set.

This, in my mind, is a big and long chase and hunt that I have decided to embark upon. I want to get as many of the sets and cancels as I can, but I am patient also, so it is enough that the intention has been declared, for me. The hound Doug has the scent, so to speak.

Let me see what I can do about hunting down a list of towns to match the numbers. Michel ONLY lists the #'s and what premium. I had a partial list at one time but I have no idea where it went.

No wrong impressions Puzzler
I meant I couldn't identify the colour blue or royal blue.

Here is the Robson Lowe auction of 15th March 1966 in Basel.

Prices in 1966 ranged from 300 swiss francs to 2000.

Good luck if you begin collecting,
these are over my head and too involved

I found this site that lists all of these Bavarian number cancels. There might be others as well - the German term for these number cancels is "Nummernstempel", at least that's how I found this page.

http://www.briefmarken-tipps.de/nummer/bay.html

The 9 Kr green was issued in 1850 (Scott #6 / Michel #5) and wasn't replaced by the 9 Kr bister until 1862, so it could conceivably have either an early closed millwheel cancel (pre-Dec. 1859) or a late one. If it's an early cancellation, it's Ingolstadt. If it's a late one, it's Fürth. Both have large populations, so either one is likely.

Rodney, #479 was either Kimratshofen (early) or Schweinfurt (late). Same thing with your stamp, the 3 Kr blue wasn't replaced with the 3 Kr rose until 1862. Schweinfurt has a current population over 50,000 and Kimratshofen has barely 1500 residents today, so I'd lean toward Schweinfurt as being much more likely.

Ryan

Ryan thanks for the info on SWLK.

Your searching skills are amazing. Thanks for sharing!

Funafuti Tuvalu has finally got a legible postmark after years of an illegible blob.

You cannot get a cover cancelled much better than this, and it is not philatelic.