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Since we need more 5c stamps in here ... 3-13-23R1, vertical strip. 3R is top row, A relief, followed by B, and C reliefs. The 5c stamp was made with a 4-relief roller. This shows A-B-C. 23R1 is the defective transfer - the same position I posted earlier, I believe on page 1 of this thread.  |
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Really nice cover. I am still looking for my first S.12. Multiples on cover will have to wait! I assume these are still on the cover?  |
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txstamp and classic coins -- Thanks for the compliments on the reconstructed plate 8 block. txstamp -- regarding the cover from which they came -- I never saw it as the stamps were already off cover when I purchased them -- probably over 20 years ago now -- that said, I was told by the seller that the "cover" was actually a soiled and badly damaged piece of a cover -- so he soaked the stamps and sold them to me for my plate reconstructions. classic coins -- agree that plate 8 stamps readily stand out from the other "no-inner line" dull red plates (i.e., 4, 6, and 7) due to the generally heavier recutting of all 4 FL's -- and also that there are some really fresh and striking colors seen from plate 8. txstamp -- that is a really nice vertical strip of the 5c value. I know that vertical strips of the 3c value are much tougher to find versus horizontal strips -- and presume the same is true of the 5c value as well? |
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Good eye. Yes, I currently have that cover, and I cropped the stamps from it. I wasn't sure if readers of this thread really cared to see full covers vs stamps. I'm a cover guy these days :-) I bought it in the Middendorf sale, and it is ex-Mayer. There are only two known multiples of 23R1, imperforate on or off cover. Both happen to be on cover. I have the other cover as well  . My avatar is a cropped scan of the 23R1 from the other cover. |
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 Above is the other 23R1 cover. Pos 23-24-25R1. Ex-Ackerman This cover was tucked away in a postal history collection for decades until recently, when I bought it. |
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Regarding scarcity of vertical vs horizontal multiples, the Zuckerman census of on-cover #12s, showed 12 horizontal strips of 3 and 11 vertical.
He had about 350 covers recorded at that point.
Typically, for most 1851 issue stamps, you are definitely correct - vertical multiples tend to be much scarcer than horizontal. This was an on-cover only datapoint. |
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Quote: not often seen on OB stamps as a bit of a late usage. ioagoa, I've only been aware of the NY APL for a few years as I'm a relatively new collector. Having said that, in my searches as a stampcrow adding to my collection, I haven't seen an OB with the APL on or off cover. Lovely!! |
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Classic Coins, thanks for posting your Petersburg cancel. Its a nice clear strike that reveals a number of areas of similarity. The alignment looks like a match, as does the font, even the area of "TE" in Petersburg which may have been worn in some way and did not transfer well. Seems probable. Thanks.
By the way & for everyone, this is a great thread, getting real specialists and less specialized collectors to focus together on a variety of examples and questions within a particular issue. Seems like a very useful and enjoyable approach. - Jonathan
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Since TX said we need more 5˘ 1856 issue covers Paying the 5˘ British Open Mail rate to the Cunard Line steamer in Boston, rated 5d due in Halifax, Nova Scotia  Paying the British Open Mail rate, but missed the boat and treated as entirely unpaid, rated 6d (10˘) due  Paying the 10˘ treaty rate to Nova Scotia  Paying the 10˘ treaty rate to New Brunswick  |
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You're welcome, jleb1979. I got that Petersburg image from an ebay listing. Thanks for your kind words about this thread. We really do have a nice mix of collectors sharing and learning here. |
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SPQR, Those are some interesting postal history items. Thanks for showing them! |
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spqr - Those are wonderful 5c covers. Some great frankings in there.
Where would we be on covers to Halifax without the Hare correspondence? |
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