Show Your US 1851-57 Imperforate Stamps

"Stan, the second (top row) 1c stamp is 10L1E."

I concur.

Greetings all. Today while plating I came across another example of "frame line extends to stamp below" except this one is the right outer frame line extending down. Thought it was worth posting given Ioagoa's recent post on this topic. The position is 14R8. The stamp I was plating turned out to be a very nice impression of 15R8 with the top missing but it had a nice portion of 14R8 and you can clearly see the frame line extending down. This extension doesn't show up on the Chase copy (odd because there is enough area below the bottom frame line you should see it) and the Lund copy is cut-in too close to see this area. I did find a copy of 24R8 on SSD that has the bottom of 14R8 on it and you can see the frameline extension quite nicely. See below. Chase and others made note of the vertical dash between the 14R8 and 15R8 but I'm not seeing any discussion of the frame line extending down.

Regards,
Harper1249

Position 15R8 with portion of 14R8


SSD Copy of 24R8

Just sharing.

I was talking to my wife about how graded stamps are generally worth more than ungraded stamps. The higher the grade often equals a higher value.

But even more important than grade is attractiveness. This stamp is tight in the upper left corner. It might be lucky to get a grade of 75.

But on the scale of attractiveness? This example is just absolutely beautiful. I know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

A nice cancel, but not rare. Nothing special, just about perfect, though.

I have a lot of 1851 stamps. If I had to narrow it down to jus one of each Scott number - this one would be in my top 2 or 3 Scott #10A's.

Scott #10A - Position 97L0 - with blue SEP 26 (1851), Lynchburg, VA Circular Date Stamp.

It would be a shame to not share such a stamp.

While I am at it, I'm going to upload another favorite that wouldn't necessary grade very high, but that I find beautiful. I couldn't find it on my phone, so I downloaded it from where I had uploaded it - reddit.

Enjoy!

Two absolutely beautiful copies indeed. I would much rather see those in my collection rather than a graded 95 with 4 full margins and a smudgy or heavy cancel hiding all the details of the stamp design.

If the PF were to grade it, might it get a "75 XQ" (exceptional quality)? Sure it's a "75" but it's the best 75 you could ask for.

Stanshepp, more impressive than the stamps… your wife showing an interest.
I like that Pittsburgh? cancel.

Stampcrow,

LYNCHBURGH, VA

She always thought of stamp collecting as being a lot like sticker collecting. The postal history aspect, and plating has gotten her a little more I terested.

Here's an attractive West Stockbridge MA cancel on a #10A, position 37R0.

Beautiful stamps gentlemen.

Gorgeous stamps! Thanks for sharing fellas.

Here a perplexing little stamp, very faint Left Frame Line, possibly doubled. And the top Left Diamond Block seems to be attached to the Label Block.

With the clean cut left and right margines and the torn top and bottom margines. My first thought was a 25, but you can clearly see the next stamp on the sheet to the right.

Moyock13 My thought is that's an 11 from plate 4.

Hi Moyock --

Your stamp is 63L4.

FWIW -- I looked at 5 other reference copies -- and only 1 of the 5 shows that very faint line horizontal line connecting ULDB and TLB.

Regards // ioagoa

Hi ioagoa and stampcrow,

Thanks for the information and for the plate position. I had originally looked on plate 4, but apparently not real good! =) The Lund image (63L4) upper left portion is obliterated by the cancel and the connector between the ULDB and TLB isn't visible.

Thanks again.

If I may, taking us back to the plate 1e vs 1i conversation…

My first look at the stamp below I thought it would be plate 1i.
Thoughts being based on seeing what looks like a recut in the top of the URDB and the stamp showing wear particularly around the ULT.

Now looking at the Stamp Plating images, these things I mention above actually match, at least to my eyes, 24R1e not 1i….

Hi StampCrow --

I started to study your 24R1 stamp to figure the state of the plate as Early or Inter -- but your scan is not sufficient for that kind of work -- (at least not for me).

Curious -- what type of scanner are you using? In any event -- can you rescan on a flat bed scanner at 1200 dpi (and with minimal jpg compression) and post a higher quality scan.

FYI -- if the file size is too large for SCF -- can you email the image to Don -- as he has indicated a willingness to post the full-sized image in cases like this.

Regards // ioagoa

Edit #1 -- By the way -- how to separate 1E from 1i for this position was previously discussed in this thread -- link to my prior post on that subject is here:

https://goscf.com/t/72775&whichpage=170#757767

Edit #2 -- In fact -- if you read my original post on this position as linked above -- you will see that your stamp is THE stamp that was incorrectly slotted on StampSmarter as 24R1i -- and that in follow-up to my post, ClassicCoins moved the image on StampSmarter and re-slotted it as 24R1E. So, it looks like your stamp was already confirmed as 24R1E back on 12/5/2022.

Ioagoa,
As foolish as I feel right now, it's worth it to have the stamp ID'd correctly.

I followed your link to the 1E 1i discussion and although I had thanked you for your post I hadn't actually taken the time to read it comprehensively.
Now that I have, I see my error leaning into the worn plate pointing me to 1i.

Some time ago I stopped uploading stamps to StampSmarter for the reason illustrated here…, the chance of error on my part and I no longer have a scanner.
As a novice I was a bit overzealous in wanting to participate and even thought I could help others learn what I was learning.., but there's nothing more dangerous than a little bit of knowledge and a lack of wisdom/experience.

Thanks again!
And I really need to get a scanner