Show Your US 1851-57 Imperforate Stamps

Thanks for your interesting comments, txstamp. Much appreciated.

So, am I right in saying that position 14R5E was entered onto the plate and for some reason (guessing it was too far right) it was mostly "erased"? Then an A-relief was re-entered on top of where the previous entry was and the remnants of the initial transfer are showing through.

Harper1249

Yes, that seems correct.

And always look at it from the point of view of the whole transfer roll, and not just one position / relief. It is interesting that 5R5e, and 7R5e, according to stampplating are B reliefs. If that's really true, then that implies that they entered those columns with the bottom relief on the roll. That would not have over-rocked below those positions for obvious reasons.

Most likely, and I'm only totally speculating here, they started off with one methodology - say entering the top row with the bottom (B) relief, then possibly changed their methodology and re-entered positions with the top (C) relief, and rocked the whole roll in.

Now, leveraging from the 1c plate 1e issues, where they clearly had different transfer rolls. The reason I wonder / question whether 5R, 7R and many other top row positions have their relief properly identified, is maybe they started things out with a single relief roll, like they did with the 1c plate 1E. Then they got partway into that and changed their minds, and made the 3 relief roller. I haven't studied all of the 3c plates enough to have an opinion on that yet, but things are weird enough to where we have to consider all possibilities.

45R1e or 45R1i? I can never figure out the difference. In this situation I usually go with plate 1 intermediate, simply because I can't distinguish the differences between plates 1e and 1i.

Hi Moyock13. I'm leaning towards 45R1i based on the frame line and triangle block from the portion of 46R1i visible on your stamp. On the early the state this frame line is stronger and there is a single line recut in the upper left triangle. Yours has a weaker frameline and isn't showing that triangle recut. Additional confirmed copies of these positions are needed to say with certainty though.

Regards
Harper1249

Anyone versed in plating Scott 17's, 12c imperf?

I've been mildly successful in plating several using Neinkens The 1851-57 Twelve Cent Stamp. But this particular stamp is perplexing. There's a lot going on with this stamp, but Neinken doesn't reference most.

To me it appears that the left and bottom frame lines have been recut, as well as parts of the lower left rosetta. Position dot lower right, another possible just left of the right rosetta between the inner and outer frame lines.

Also, the lower right rosetta, between the 6 & 9 o'clock position is a little weird. I put the digital microscope on it thinking it might be a repair or damage. But it looks like a printing issue or a recut or something else.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

I would potentially try to plate it if I had it in front of me but it won't be easy considering the left and bottom margins are added and parts of the design are surely painted in. Sorry!

The above comments are in regards to the #17. And BTW, I see you are the one that outbid me on the 3c stamp a couple posts back.

sinclair, thanks for the response. Once I was able to magnify the SC 17 a bit those frame lines became more curious. There are a few other spots, lower left and right rosetta's especially, that didn't seem right.

So, what do you think about the 3c? Early or Intermediate? I think I stand with Harper in that it's from plate 1i.

Things have been pretty quite around here so I thought I'd post this example of 92L2L. A triple transfer I came across today while plating a few. Bummer the bottom right rosette is covered by the cancel but you can still see the shifted transfers in the left rosettes, oval and the label blocks.

Regards,
Harper1249

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Harper, that's a real nice example of the triple transfer on 92L2L. Thanks for showing it!

Hopefully my photo is good enough to show this 92L1L double transfer on cover.


Not a great looking stamp with that dull claret color (that's what I call it), glad to have it though.

The 92L1L line through THREE CENTS shift is a great one to have, stampcrow. It looks better than the one in my collection. Thanks for showing it!

I really dislike plating A-Relief 3c Washingtons, but here is my attempt at this one. The first one is mine, with the pen cancel. Also shown is Chase's example and Lund's example of the closest that I came - 78L1E.

I am interested in your thoughts on this one. Close - but is it correct?

Stan shepp