Show Your US 1851-57 Imperforate Stamps

That's a bummer, Classic Coins. I'd like to be able to enlarge them to see more detail. Thanks for posting that link.

Its already mentioned but, to reinforce - the stampplating.com website has enlargements of the Chase photos by position.

ioagoa, Thanks for following up, and for the clarification, which is well received. You've provided some thought-provoking ideas.

Moyock13, did you try downloading the zip file containing the 1200-DPI images via the download link in the middle of the page?

Classic, didn't have time yesterday to download. I had grand babies and our grand dog under foot. We live on a canal so everyone wanted to fish. I did download this morning, thank you. Nice to have images of the Chase files locally.

txstamps, the stampplating.com website is a great resource. Thanks for mentioning.

A bit jealous you guys!
Does anyone have a decent 7 or 9 I can buy?

Posting my better 10s and one 11. All are Orange Brown and I plated all of these myself. I am reasonably confident I am correct, but I am new at this, so I won't be put off if someone disagrees.

All are 10A except 2nd row right which is an 11 which I believe is 1856 Orange Brown -- on cover with letter dated 30 Oct 1856.

1st row 35L5e, 72L0, 5L0
2nd row 45L5e, 24L1i and 63R4 (the S.11)

I think the 72L0 looks Yellowish O.B. but have only images from this forum to compare not a certified stamp. Can anyone confirm? Are all the other 10As just O.B. or do I have another O.B. hue? The 24L1i seems to be darker?

The stampplating.com site is great. These were all reasonably easy to plate with the exception of S.11 which was hard because there are a number of images (both the Chase B&W and the colored ones) that are poor. Is there a way to offer better images to help improve the site?

These were all scanned at the same time on an Epson V500 scanner at 2400dpi but obviously reduced to fit the 250K limit here.






Finally is there any chance to get the maximum size of an image attachment increased to say 500K? For example there is fine detail on the S.11 above -- a ghost of additional frame line that I don't believe will be visible on the images above. I know I can crop off a small piece and post that as a separate image but it would be nicer if you just zoom the posted image.




Note (about three hours later): As you will see if you keep reading this thread I made a couple mistakes in plating. 1st row middle is really 96L5e and the 2nd row left is mis-labelled should say 47L5e and 2nd row middle could be 24L1e but missing top frame line you can't say for sure. Thanks to all who chipped in on this.

Banknoteguy, the Stamp Smarter page has a good image of the 63R4.
http://stampsmarter.com/plate/hires...es/20518.jpg

Stampcrow,

Definitely a better image and a match. Thanks.

Can you provide a link to that site for those high res images? I have tried to use that site and find it very difficult to navigate. I just tried to back track on the link you supplied and got nowhere useful.

banknoteguy, Nice stamps!

The middle stamp in the top row definitely is not 72L0. It looks pale due to under-inking, fading, or some other reason. Yellowish OB only came from plate 1e, and the impressions were very clear.

I'll try to post an image of a yellowish OB today.

Doubling of the left frame line is very common on plate 4 stamps due to recutting, and that is what I see on your plate 4 stamp. You can see a basic plate identification guide at the USPCS site here:

https://www.uspcs.org/stamps-covers...2%a2-plates/

To post larger images than the site allows, you can use an image hosting site, like ImageShack (which I use and recommend).

Here is the link to the Stamp Smarter 3-cent plating page to see larger and clearer images than on the Chase prints.

http://www.stampsmarter.com/feature...Plating.html

banknoteguy, Your plate 4 stamp is almost certainly orange red, rather than orange brown.

Here is a yellowish orange brown next to orange brown and orange red for comparison.

Disclaimer: This image is provided to display variations in ink color between different stamps, all of which were scanned together. Because of variations in scanner settings, and because different display screens render colors differently, this image may not be suitable for confirming colors of stamps in hand or in other images.

Classic Coins,

Oooops. Thanks for pointing out my mistake. I went back through the plates and see that it sure looks like a match for 96L5e! I definitely need more practice ...

The stamp is very sharp. But I guess if Yellowish O.B. only comes from Plate 1e then it must be just an O.B.





Testing 3rd party image hosting -- this is ImageShack

https://imageshack.com/i/poyobqmVj

This is Gdrive:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Um...?usp=sharing

I think I like Gdrive better -- you can really zoom into the detail better than ImageShack.
Let me know what others think.

I just noticed that the ImageShack account I created is a trial one. Looks like that service is not free. Whereas with any gmail account you get 15G of gdrive for free. Correct me if I somehow missed how to setup a free ImageShack account.

Classic coins said,


Bummer -- but I see what you are pointing out.

I am hoping there will again be shows or people to meet in person to sort colors out!!! Pretty tough to do virtually.

You're welcome, banknoteguy.

No, ImageShack isn't free. I pay $20 per year for the basic plan, but storage space is unlimited.

Thanks for mentioning Gdrive though. I may look at that as an option in the future.

Hi Banknoteguy --

With your correction on re-plating the stamp you initially identified as 72L0 -- which you have now correctly plated to position 96L5E -- I believe that 5 of your 6 stamps are confirmed as being correctly plated -- Great Job!!

The one stamp that is wrong is the stamp you identified as 45L5E -- which is actually 47L5E. There are a number of differences between these two positions -- but the two most easily noticeable ones are as follows:

-- first -- check out the positioning of guide dot (GD) in the lower right corner on each of these two positions. The GD on your stamp is positioned much differently than 45L5E -- but is a solid match to 47L5E. One of the first things to check on any stamp showing a GD is how the GD is positioned -- as this is a really fast and easy way to eliminate possibilities -- or to identify potential candidates for further study.

-- second -- your stamp has 1 vertical line recut in both the upper left and lower right triangles -- both of which are a solid match to 47L5E. If you look at the Chase photo (or other confirmed reference copy) of 45L5E -- there are no recut lines in any of the triangles.

There are other differences as well -- for example -- if you put an image of 45L5E and 47L5E side by side on your computer screen, and compare the relationship between the right inner line and the right frame line on each position -- the bends in the lines and the white spacing between the lines are noticeably different. That said, your stamp is a solid match with 47L5E in all regard.

Regarding the stamp that you plated to 24L1i -- one additional point of clarification -- while the stamp is correctly plated to position 24L1 -- it is almost impossible to tell from the scan if the state of the plate is Early or Intermediate -- as the only difference between the two is evidence of re-entry. Even with the stamp in hand -- it might be impossible to differentiate between the Early and Intermediate states of the plate because the top frame line is cut-off. Either way, your stamp is a Scott # 10A --orange brown -- with double dots at lower right -- and is either position 24L1i or 24L1E.

Again -- great job on this group of stamps!

Regards // ioagoa

Edited to add comments clarifying the state of the plate on position 24L1 I or E ?