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Posted 11/21/2025   6:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I grabbed this cover, it's my first with a #24. Wasn't/not sure if the stamp is original to the cover but I liked the stamp for the imprint.


Edit to add: I believe the CDS is Schenectady, NY. So I would ask.., would 1c pay postage from there to Ohio?
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Edited by stampcrow - 11/21/2025 6:21 pm
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Posted 11/21/2025   8:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unsealed circular.
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Posted 11/22/2025   10:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had thought the circular or drop rate was for short distances, more like a local delivery.
Thanks rev.
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Posted 11/22/2025   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The circular rate and drop rate were not the same.
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Posted 11/22/2025   10:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Drop rate was local;
circulars were distance based only from 7/1/51-9/30/52.

Thats why distance based circulars are quite collectible - relatively short period.

Yours is after this period.
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Posted 11/22/2025   1:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent, I believe I understand now.
Thank you.
With that I believe the stamp is correct on this cover and I'm glad for that. For my eyes a faulty stamp looks better on a cover.
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Posted 12/04/2025   12:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Who knows how many plates there are for the 1851-60 3c perforated issues?
Are there plates 9 through 28? Are there plating diagrams for them?
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Edited by jaxom100 - 12/04/2025 12:53 pm
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Posted 12/04/2025   8:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jaxom --

Going off memory here -- but YES -- the 1857 – 1860 3c perforated issues (i.e., Scott #26 and #26A) are comprised of plates 9 through 28 inclusive. That said -- plate 9 and alpha plate "Z" exist in two states (i.e., Early and Late) -- and plates 10 and 11 (the #26A plates) exist in 3 states -- (Early, Intermediate, and Late).

So while there are 20 plates -- if each state of a plate is counted as if it were a separate plate -- there are 26 plates -- each with 2 panes of 100 stamps -- so a total of 5,200 positions.

There are various plating diagrams, mats, and charts for some of these -- mostly published in the USPCS Chronicle over period of decades -- and mostly for things like top row positions with guide dots, center line copies, imprints, flaws, slips, major shifted transfers, recutting varieties, cracks, etc., etc.

I know of no publicly available comprehensive resource for a set of plating diagrams -- and in fact -- many of these stamps cannot be plated at all.

Again -- I am going off memory here -- but I am pretty sure I got it correct.

Happy to discuss further if you like.

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 12/05/2025   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first 5 are type V, Scott 24. The last image is a type IV, Scott 23.
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Posted 12/05/2025   7:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HWDear to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for identifying. I'm not so good at that yet hence why one of those was supposed to be an #18.#128514;
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Posted 12/06/2025   10:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott #18 would have complete side ornaments and complete frame lines top and bottom. All the stamps pictured except the last have incomplete side ornaments and wide breaks in the frame lines, hence #24. jaxom, I think the last stamp is Type II, #20 from Plate 2.
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Posted 12/06/2025   10:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HWDear to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Thank you. The #20 was supposed to be an #18 so no biggie. I will eventually learn to identify these. Right now I'm working on the #10s 11s 25s and 26s. Much appreciated.
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Posted 12/06/2025   12:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with @dudley, bottom stamp is Ty II #20.
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Posted 12/13/2025   4:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HWDear to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unidentified on cover.
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