Brazilian Bull Eyes. Is It Possible From The Pictures (Included) To Know Whether It Is Authentic?

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Peter

The short answer is, no, you can't be certain from a picture.

Peter pointed you to stampsmarter.com. Look there in Album Weeds. There is a description of Bull's Eye forgeries.

You also might try http://stampforgeries.com/forged-st...-spud-paper/

It's generally an expensive stamp. Mine came with a cert.

Dan,

Fake , no detail in background

The longer I look at your stamp, the less inclined I am to think it's genuine. The numbers don't stand out and the background is blurry.

If it turns out to be authentic, it's a very late printing.

Dan

Floortrader,



I should type faster! LOL

Dan

Here is a scan from Kelleher Stamp Auctions , notice the art work details in the background .

Looks genuine to me.

I'm thinking it's just the blurry scan that's making everyone think it's fake. Almost all the forgeries are much easier to see. Try rescanning to get a clean image. Some of these get pretty worn, see Paul's image from Kelleher. The 90 reis is obviously in a late stage of worn. Here are mine:

Myself, also.

The conclusion you can reach from an image is "it looks genuine" at best. Your image is poor quality, so that reduces your chances of reaching a sound conclusion even further.

Genuine are engraved, most forgeries are lithographed.
You have to take into account that the plates were worn in the late printings.

It is not a Sperati forgery (most dangerous forgery).
Reason: Postmark doesn't match

Other forgeries are fairly easy to distinguish, as they are either very crude or have specific design flaws / known postmarks. Comparing to forgeries attributed to these forgers: Patroni, Spiro, Zechmeyer, Oneglia, Mercier, Fournier -

your specimen doesn't match any of them.

So, it looks genuine.

Genuine worn impression:

First composite plate, state "B" pos.7.:

(Meyer 2007 certificate)

Hi
You can use "Vade-mecum by F. Serrane" (I think you can find it on "stampsmarter")
The area of interest is covered by obliteration, but as a non-specialist opinion, I think the stamp is fake.

The question comes down to anybody is going to buy it without a cert. , sure I'll buy it for $5.00 as a forgery . It is not a stamp that a inexperience collector would buy ,the question is if your buying a $1400 stamps where is the $30.00 cert .

Here is the stamp I would take with me if I was looking to purchase a real stamp ,this one cost me less than a dollar .

A recent Latin American purchase keeps throwing up hidden surprises tucked away - first, the high value green Zeppelin overprint from Argentina (Sc C29), then a full set of 1937 Venezuela Resellado overprints from 1937 (Sc 324 etc), and now these two Brazil bull's eyes.

90r value (Scott 3)



The 90r value doesn't match with the Sperati cancels, and doesn't look like the other forgeries mentioned. Have found the publication made available for download at the Classic Latin America site very helpful for this process https://classiclatinamerica.com/the...ounterfeits/

Haven't looked at the 30r (Scott 1) in as much detail, but looks like it was from a later printing than the 90r.



Am definitely not an expert in this area whatsoever so looking for comments.