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I Would Like Your 2 Cents. On My 2 Cents! Please. 1923 2 Cent Perf 9 1/2 X 10

 
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Posted 08/25/2020   7:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Onaroll to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Normally when I come across a stamp with different perf from the norm. I will log and put it in it's place. No big deal, not saying this is. But normally it doesn't turn out to be a compound perf. So I ask you what are your thoughts?




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Posted 08/26/2020   5:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please take a picture against perf 11 lines on gauge.
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Posted 08/26/2020   6:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A scan of the entire stamp would also greatly assist in an identification.
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Posted 08/26/2020   8:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Onaroll to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I certainly hope the two photos are as both of you requested thank you for your time and assistance. Stamp came to me with no gum and plate number is 18520 I believe. Again thank you for your help.

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Posted 08/26/2020   11:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Metric perforation gauges are of limited value. The stamp is a perf 10 rotary, Scott 583. It is easy to count ten perforation teeth and 9 holes within the width of the design at the bottom. The design is slightly less than 2 centimeters in width. The perforation spacing is very close to .080 inch, labeled as perf 10-80 on the Kiusalas US Specialty gauge.
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Posted 08/26/2020   11:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We have another clue here (but I am sorry I cannot help, but I will at least pose the question....) with the partial plate #. I make it out to be 1xy2z where x/y/z are probably 0, 6, 8 , or 9. Lots of combos possible. Anyway, maybe someone can break out the Durland catalog and check P#'s. Sheesh, this is one of those times when I am glad I DON'T have a Durland!! x and z look to be different widths, but they all look like 0's to me - and I know they probably aren't.

Short answer is: this is a Perf 10 stamp. Longer answer is that there is slight variation in perf dimensions and you shouldn't be surprised to find a perf 10 stamp with perf 9.7 on one or two sides. The EXACT reason why my statement is true, I couldn't tell you.
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Posted 08/27/2020   02:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Folks can quickly lookup a stamp by plate number (at no cost) here http://stampsmarter.com/features/Pl...ockHome.html (click on the 'Search By Plate Number' tab).
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Posted 08/27/2020   08:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This stamp was perforated by a web-fed Stickney bar and wheel perforator. The horizontal perforations were perforated by rotating bars and the vertical perforations were perforated by rotating wheels. Although, the Kiusalas gauge has the horizontal and vertical perforations both as 10-80 = 9.84, there are some slight variations between them since they were made differently.
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Posted 08/27/2020   11:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Onaroll to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank all of you for your time and expertise. So what we have is a 10x10 that's exactly the same but different. That just dosen't sit quiet right with me for some reason. Just to be clear 11 is 11 and a 10 is a ten and a 9 1/2 is a 10? But it is what it is!
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Posted 08/27/2020   1:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Onaroll, All catalogs round off the perforation measurements to some degree. Some to the nearest half, some to the tenth, etc. Your stamp is nominally "perf 10", even though the true gauge is slightly less. Your initial photo with 9.5, is not well aligned at that point on the gauge, and should be moved somewhat closer to 10. One suggestion is the use other stamps for perforation comparisons and use the gauge sparingly.
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Posted 08/27/2020   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Onaroll to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's probably the best idea yet! I will do just that. Ty!
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