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Posted 10/11/2020   6:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Caper123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Need opinions on this stamp. I know of no stamp that looks like this, so is it airbrushed?
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Posted 10/11/2020   8:27 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I know that stamp :) An altered Type III was my conclusion. I would imagine the alteration predates the airbrush.
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Posted 10/11/2020   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a 35, perhaps with some corner damage issues.
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Posted 10/11/2020   8:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 10/11/2020   8:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The shells are missing at the bottom, the circles above the X's are too incomplete and there are 3 Pearl's on each side - therefore not a 35. Bottom line too thick for a 34 and too compete for a 32 or 33.

That's why I feel it's bogus.
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Posted 10/12/2020   11:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Caper, you are correct and I agree with sinclair: it's an altered Type III (#33), with bottom frame line augmented probably in an attempt to mimic #34.
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Posted 10/12/2020   11:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Assuming that the pearls are not also drawn in, just like the bottom line. Plus the Scott catalog has a footnote which states "usually only one pearl remains at each end of the lower label, but some samples show 2 or 3 on the right side. So adding a few on the left is not that difficult for some people.
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Posted 10/12/2020   11:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A #33 should have at least some of the shell remaining.
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Posted 10/12/2020   1:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For a bit I thought it could be a #35 with the bottom doubled, like this one:

but the rest of the stamp just doesn't match up in any way. Then I considered the possibility of a #34 with the bottom recut, but there are none that are doubled and all of them have a relatively thin recut bottom line.

It, along with three just OK 35's, two 32's, and a 33 just sold for $338...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-1857-W...047675.l2557
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Posted 10/12/2020   4:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add widglo46 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If it is an altered #33 in an attempt to look like a #34, it is a crude attempt. Why can't it just be a #35 from a badly worn state of the plate? Due to the cancel, I can't see that there are 3 pearls on the right.
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Posted 10/12/2020   5:07 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is a Scott #33. Crude is a subjective word. It was good enough to bring in a couple hundred dollars with the buyer probably figuring he/she got a bargain.
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Posted 10/12/2020   6:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Assuming that it actually is a 33, "good enough" for what level of buyer? Lots of collectors spend money on stamps that turn out not to be what they thought they were. Unless someone can plate it, or actually gets to examine it, there is no way to be certain what it is.
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Posted 10/12/2020   6:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Why can't it just be a #35 from a badly worn state of the plate? Due to the cancel, I can't see that there are 3 pearls on the right.


The pearls are there on each side. The cancel obscures the third pearl at right, but no #35 has three complete pearls at left and two complete pearls at right. And no #35 has a bottom frame line that looks like this one--way too thick.
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Posted 10/12/2020   7:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if the whole bottom margin has been added. It might not be, but it does look funny on the ebay site scan.
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