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Posted 03/03/2025   10:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't immediately see your mourning cover in Mirsky's collection (I may have missed it). He may have had it, and sold it separately - that often happens. Harvey did have the July 5th Moulton cover, however. Maybe someone confused that one with yours, or maybe he did have both. Either is possible.

Regardless, I presume that you already own this cover, and did not just buy it (on extension). If so, there is probably no reason to submit it for a new cert. My first reaction after looking at it, and others from the same correspondence, is that it "appears" perfectly genuine --- Sampson was a well known 47 collector. Caveat emptor for any opinion from a digital image. No guarantees. The killer merits close study, but is likely ok.

The only issue with existing certs is that I'm pretty sure Alcuri and Brettl are European, which in my eyes slightly reduces their validity. No disrespect to them, however, I believe, at least in the past it helped to be plugged in to the local country's established expert services fully for certification. For the US, its the Philatelic Foundation, in particular.
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Edited by txstamp - 03/03/2025 10:38 am
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Posted 04/24/2025   05:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Finally got a lovely ladies cover!

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Posted 04/24/2025   3:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Captain Stamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Finally got a lovely ladies cover!


We see the difference... the stamp is better placed than on a man's letters.
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Posted 11/18/2025   8:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phade122 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
US #2, 10c Black, Halloween cover. Margins Close to in, tied by attractive double red bold square 13 grid cancel, Matching "New York Oct 31st 1848 circular datestamp" on folded letter, to Mr. D.B. Stevenson Esq, Picton, Canada West, manuscript "Paid", crossed at the Queenston/Lewiston exchange office, with Red Queenston datestamp Nov 3rd 1848 double split-ring transit "9" pence in manuscript being the amount due for domestic Canadian postage, Red Kingston US receiving mark Nov 5th 1848 and Picton, receiving mark Nov 6th,1848. Picton West is in Ontario Canada, a Very fine early cross-border cover.
Notated: Alexander Cencus, & USPCS Census

New York-born from Clinton {Hyde Park} David Barker Stevenson Esq was a significant figure in Prince Edward County, Upper Canada, both for his business as well as political interests. A Conservative and ally of Sir John A. MacDonald (who represented Kingston, and was later Canada's first Prime Minister), Stevenson In 1847, Served as the Warden of Picton. and shortly after was elected in 1848 to represent Picton in the Third Legislative Assembly of the Province of Canada. Again in 1851 & 1854 till 1857.
David Barker Stevenson (1801-1859) was a general store owner, dealer in timber real estate, and operated a distillery. He was President of the Mutual Fire Insurance Company, member of the Canadian Legislative Assembly and was elected Mayor of Picton in 1854 till his passing in 1859.


Any help with plating would be very much appreciated and thank you.
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Posted 11/19/2025   11:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's a nice usage, and very nice 13-bar grid cancels - well struck.
The 9 pence due is double the 4 1/2 pence rate for a longer distance within Canada to the destination.

Regarding plating - a lot of plating of the 10c stamp is achieved with help from the framelines and markings in and around them as well. Without those visible, this might prove to be a tough stamp to plate. Possibly it can be plated from just the guide dot of course.

Here is the reference -

https://stampsmarter.org/features/S..._Plates.html

Its a little confusing at the moment, that the 12c stamp is also on that page - but that's just a logistical issue with the website at the moment.
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Posted 11/19/2025   10:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Its a little confusing at the moment, that the 12c stamp is also on that page - but that's just a logistical issue with the website at the moment.


Sorry about that. I did not have anywhere to put the 12c data at this time.
Hopefully, it will eventually have it's own home.
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Posted 11/20/2025   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@jaxom - to be 100% clear; my comment is not meant as any knock against you.

In fact, I commend you for your resourcefulness at finding a temporary spot for the 12c stamp !
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Posted 12/22/2025   10:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phade122 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good day all, I have a question about a cover is posted some time ago. its a US #1 red brown wide margins on Mourning cover. I read. that of the 15-18k covers with US #1 only 21 are known to be Mourning covers, and of that only 7 have four full margin #1s. Are these Mourning covers that rare, and are they sought after? also after looking at the one's with four margins the one I have I can see why the expert said this cover is superb 95+ so these things all bring a premium for these covers? I have a few people that have showed serious interest one particular who seems to want this cover like no tomorrow. this was one of Mr Mirsky's cover sold privately before his passing. its been expertized by J Sampson 1847 & is also accompanied by a few certs. none from the states. also I have tried to plate this stamp I'm stuck. any help would be much appreciated. I have also added MM Gauge seems like 1mm on all sides, would this be grade a 95 or 98? for those thinking why am I asking, the truth is I want to know. I would never remove, or cut a strip just to get the stamp graded, for profit. I just wanted to say this because I have been asked this question about other covers or strips, that I was curious about. again happy holidays to everyone. and thank you all.






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Posted 12/23/2025   2:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mourning covers on 47's are definitely nice items.

It would appeal to someone building a specialized mourning cover collection or a specialized 1847 issue on cover type of collection certainly.

Regarding plating the stamp - unless it is a notable variety, #1's are quite hard to plate as individual stamps with some exceptions.
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Posted 12/23/2025   3:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is no dot in the left ornament, so that makes it a column 1 stamp from either plate.
There is no complete plating for the left pane at this time.
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Posted 01/01/2026   01:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phade122 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Txstamp. what does it mean to be first delivery?
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Posted 01/01/2026   01:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phade122 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
JAXOM100, thoughts on this, seems it has a dot on S. comes from a FLS docketing Nov 26th 1847. I was told its a blackish brown, but from what I know the dot in S is in red brown, dark brown & orange brown. 9th column? can this be plated? I appreciate your insight and happy new year.
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Posted 01/01/2026   1:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Phade, You stamp is from the the 9th column of the left pane, the stamp color does not matter. It is a plate flaw and on every color. I do not have a copy of 19L, 29L or 89L. But comparing your copy to what I do have, I am certain that it is position 9L1. The guide dot matches with two other plate marks I indicated on the image. The only copy I have of 9L1 is an Ashbrook photo. There is a mark on the photo in the lower right which is apparently a hair on the photo image.

Can I post your image in the Stamp Smarter website?


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Posted 01/01/2026   4:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phade122 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you so very much, and as always please save and share any pictures I post. question what would this FLS be valued at, it is the 1st to leave Providence RI to Taunton Massachusetts.
here is full images


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