Farley Souvenir Sheets Margins Question

Hello all. I am in the process of designing my own album pages for my US collection and have hit a small snag. I am trying to find out what are the specific sizes of the souvenir sheets (with the wide margins) for this set so that I can have the pages correct in this album.

I know that for this set, proper identification of Scott #s 766-770 (the sheets, not the singles) is through either having a portion of the adjacent sheet with the proper gutter margin visible, or by having the sheet itself with wide margins on one or two sides. I prefer to have the latter in my collection, but I want my album pages to have the correct dimensions of these sheets so that they look nice.

An example is the #767 sheet at the bottom of this page:

https://www.stampsmarter.org/1847us...rySheet.html

As you can see, it has the 'wide' margins in the left and bottom, indicating this must be from the Farley special printing. What I am trying to find out is how 'wide' those margins are on each side so that I can design my album spots accordingly. I haven't been able to find a resource that talks about these wide margins, just the gutter dimensions. Does anyone know where I could find that information?

The answer to your question is "It depends on whether your sheet has one or two of the wide margins."

I made a 123 page album for the Farley Special Printings using AlbumEasy. It is available for free download from the AE website at https://www.thestampweb.com/albums/free-downloads. You can download just the pdf and print only those pages you want, or, if you have the free AE software, you can download the txt file and modify the pages any way you want. Those pages - unlike my own album pages shown below - do not bear the Scott numbers due to copyright issues.

I set the frame line dimensions to accommodate the sheets that I had.

Here are the frame dimensions I used (mm width x mm height), which allow extra space for the Scott/Prinz mounts that I used.

#766: 150 x 168 one wide top margin
#767: 150 x 168 one wide top margin
#768: 114 x 108 one wide left side margin
#769: 134 x 138 two wide margins - top and right side
#770: 128 x 136 two wide margins - top and left side

Here are two of the finished pages showing one and two wide margins.

Oooh, neat, I am also using AlbumEasy, so that may be just what I need. I will check it out, thanks!!

Be aware, those pages have spaces for singles, pairs, and all possible position plates (arrow line, center line, plate number, cross gutter, etc) for each issue as well as for the souvenir sheets as singles and pairs. There is even a page for the gummed singles. Print only what you need.

I have a set of the souvenir sheets (complete set unused and a subset used). Some of them are not the exact measurements as listed in Scott catalog, but they also don't have the wide margins. They vary by 1mm to 3mm different based on regular issue dimensions and the margins around the text isn't consistent even on the same souvenir sheet. The margins vary from 4mm to 7mm. Just wondering if these should all be classified as 730/731/735/750/751 even though it is possible they could have come from the later printings and were just trimmed to match the regular printings?

Note: I only measured the margins on 750/751. The margins on the others are less, so those are likely just the regular issue.

If you have the AlbumEasy software, you can change the frame sizes on my AE pages to fit different orientations. As scripted, they fit the orientation of my stamps and panes. Your sheet or pair may have the selvage along the sides rather than along the top or bottom.

@uboatnut, thanks for the response. My question was not about creating pages with frames to match what I have since I can easily modify the Steiner pages to adjust the frames as needed. The question was about how to classify souvenir sheets that do not exactly match the listed dimensions. I know that if I have the wide margins, they are the special printings, but if I definitely do not have the wide margins and the margins are close to the listed dimensions (within 3mm on either height or width), do I just classify them as the regular printings?

For example: I have what I would normally say is Scott #751, but it does not measure 92 x 99 mm. It measures more like 94 x 100 mm. It's certainly possible it was from special printing that was sent in to be gummed and then just trimmed down to a size that is closer to the #751 specifications. Perhaps I am overthinking this and should simply go by the rule that it is the special printing ONLY if it has the wide margins, otherwise it is the regular printing.

Scott Specialized says "Issued in panes measuring approximately 92x99mm containing six stamps ..."

Thus 94x100 especially if gummed would undoubtedly come from the original printing. Yes hypothetically it could have been sent in to be gummed and then trimmed down to the original size, but it would be hard to convince a buyer as such.

Just before the listings for 766-767, Scott goes on further to say that the wide gutters between panes measure 13mm horizontally, and the wide margins around the edges of the full sheets are even wider than that. 1-2mm is not sufficient, I'd want to aim for at least 10mm to be sure, but I prefer the noticeably wide margins like the ones posted by uboatnut.