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Stamp Denominations That Do Not Meet A Specific Rate?

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Posted 12/22/2020   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add MrEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Greetings Folks.

Been goggling for a while now can not find any references for legitimately printed and released stamps from any country that do not meet a specific rate somehow. Anyone have any references or links covering this specific topic?
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Posted 12/22/2020   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Being under water ( "goggling" ) does not help much, but in the Transportation Coil series were several values that did not meet a specific rate. But I do not have any idea about any write-up about it


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Posted 12/22/2020   7:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Noocassel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes such stamps or multiples of them made one stamp up into the value of another. For instance you can buy a 2nd class GB stamp and a stamp that will bring the value up to 1st class. I read somewhere that one of the GB King George the 5th stamps had no use in any multiple, or in making up the value of another postage rate.
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Posted 12/22/2020   7:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Forever Stamps do not meet a specific rate in the sense that it is variable. You could also say that the specific rate is what it is at any given point in time.

Problem is that a denomination is a value and values are what they are, fixed or variable.

And then there is this:

https://stamps.org/Portals/0/albums...ominated.pdf
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Posted 12/22/2020   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MrEd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you for that link rog, I had forgotten about the non-de-noms
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Posted 12/22/2020   7:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MrEd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ah yes forever stamps, the scourge for denominated stamps
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Posted 12/22/2020   7:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
More Non-denomination also here
https://stampsmarter.org/1847usa/AL...ntifier.html

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Posted 12/22/2020   7:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peter,
Which transportation coils did you have in mind that did not meet a rate?
-John
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Posted 12/22/2020   8:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnimatedFDCs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Often this occurred when an anticipated rare increase did not receive approval by the rate commission. As an example there were two Americans series stamps which were issued but which did not meet a specific rate at the time and as a result received little in period commercial use. 16c statue if Liberty and 29c Sandy Hook Lighthouse. I have a FDC exhibit of the 29c.
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Posted 12/22/2020   9:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, there are the low values that were printed to serve as change makers. Then there are the stamps specifically printed for collectors - I am referring to the overprinted stamps that were also issued without the overprint. Another one is the 11 cent Stutz Bearcat that was meant to be a precancel but due to Reaganomics did not make it. The 6 cent Tricycle did not meet a postal rate when issued but did later on. Is that enough?


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Posted 12/22/2020   9:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peter,

re transportation coils: Sounds good to me.

And generally true of recent definitive series that have many of the denominations from 1 to 10 cents as make-ups. They don't pay a specific rate, but are still useful.

One could also include the high denominations like $1, $2, and $5, which seldom got used "solo" but rather along with other stamps. Likely true for other countries as well.
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Not terribly helpful, but wasn't there a 7 cent cent in one of the big US series (Scott 1040?) that didn't have matching rate? It wasn't the difference between multiple oz or classes. It was part of the series but served no practical purpose at the time the series was released.

I only think I remember it as there was an article discussing how hard it was to find on cover? Don't remember the specific stamp, but am willing to bet a dram of Islay it was a 7 center...
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Posted 12/22/2020   11:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Only one dram of Islay?????
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Posted 12/23/2020   3:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StateRevs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Only one dram of Islay?????


That would be a modern dram, not the historical one

Had an 18 year Caol Ila last night just in case
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Posted 12/23/2020   6:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had some 10 year old Laphroaig with dinner.
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Posted 12/23/2020   6:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had a Diet Pepsi after working out.
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