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Is This A #444 Paste Up Coil?

 
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Posted 01/10/2021   12:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Phillystamper to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Got this in a lot from a local auction. When checking for the single line wmk I found the plate number is visible in the paste up. plate 6985. So, thoughts? Genuine? Value enhanced by the plate number? I haven't seen a paste up coil before.
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Greg



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Posted 01/10/2021   12:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yes, extra nice with plate number showing
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Posted 01/10/2021   11:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add canyoneer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I recently purchased something similar but without the plate number. I think it is a 99.9% verification that it is an authentic coil without having to send it in for expertization. Of course are some that would say even these too could be forged but I'm guessing unlikely, especially if you have that plate number.

There are some good websites describing how these origan flat plate coils were made ... I'm amazed at the labor these must have required
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Posted 01/10/2021   12:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't imagine why anyone would bother faking this. It's a nice variety with a modest cat value, but it hardly seems worth the trouble to fake.
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Posted 01/10/2021   7:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kcaramat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NICE FIND !
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Posted 01/10/2021   10:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tipzi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Keep in mind, these can be faked from genuine imperforate coils (409H in this case) by adding perforations. Imperforate coils also have genuine paste-ups.
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Posted 01/11/2021   12:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phillystamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Assuming this is genuine what's a guess on it's value?
BTW I was very excited to find this. I bought the lot for what looked like a very nice mint 15 cent Clay 259/274 that turned out to be a flawed 259 and some others from the 1894/5 bureau series I hadn't really paid attention to this one. This was an estate auction with an auctioneer who knew little about stamps or couldn't be bothered.
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Posted 01/11/2021   1:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like # 6985 which is known an Scott's #444 and not one of the scarce numbers. My opinion of value, between 5 and 10 US $.
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I agree with REVCOLLECTOR.

Hal
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