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Pretty In Pink: Netherlands, 1894, Scott #43...and 43???

 
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Posted 02/06/2021   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add StampGuy64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


Those two stamps were issued in 1894 in the Netherlands. The 10-cent stamps depict Queen Wilhelmina as a young girl.

The mystery is that the U.S. Scott stamp catalogue does not list the colour pink(at right) for this issue. Rather, Scott lists bright-rose(at left) for this issue, and brick-red(43a). But the pink copy at right is not a bright-rose to my eyes, and certainly not brick-red.

I don't remember exactly where I got these two stamps; perhaps from one of the two dealers that were in business at the time in the city where I used to live, but are no longer there. This would've been in the 1990s.

Some time after acquiring the two, I did read online, many years ago, about the existence of a pink colour-variety for this issue, but it is exceedingly rare. There was no image provided with the article or comment at the time. The question is is this the said rarity after all, or was mine once bright-rose, but then had been exposed to sunlight for a long period of time and faded; laying on a window-sill, or on top of a desk or table?

Thank you for looking.

Alan
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Posted 02/06/2021   12:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott's international catalogue is a very generalised catalogue. It does not list all shades that exist.
At first, the mixing for colours was done "by the eye" and later using a formula. The colour was not consistent until the last quarter of 1894 and is not limited to the two you mention.
NVPH lists:
Original printings: carmine pink to pink carmine
from end 1893 – end 1894: brick red
from end 1894 onwards (synthetic colours mixed on the basis of a formula): pink. Even this has variations due to gum, light and humidity).
Use can also cause colours to change.
The pink colour is the most common stamp.
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Edited by NSK - 02/06/2021 12:25 pm
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Posted 02/06/2021   12:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In my 'NVPH Speciale Catalogus' it does not give a pink variety. It states that the colors of the first two printings are fairly constant due to the type of ink used. The third printing comes in a wider variety, also a very light one. Your sample looks like it may be a light third printing variety. Also, please keep in mind it is used and soaked off a cover


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Posted 02/06/2021   12:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampGuy64 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your replies.

It was franked in what looks to be 1898(?)

I have seen this one, and similar to my own...

https://www.hipstamp.com/listing/ne...160/34638454

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Edited by StampGuy64 - 02/06/2021 12:37 pm
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Posted 07/24/2022   4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I did not even know I had this stamp.

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Posted 07/24/2022   9:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampGuy64 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, that's a definite pink. Thanks for posting it.
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That looks like a rose shade to me...
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The Dutch word for pink and rose is roze. Translating the NVPH colour 'roze' can result in confusion.
Thinking of a movie title like 'Pretty in Pink' we would call that 'Mooi in Roze.'

NVPH 37 is described as 'roze.' This is the synthetic ink printing. Normally, 'roze' in itself is translated to 'pink,' but 'rose' would be possible.
NVPH 37a is described as 'karmijn-roze tot rozekarmijn.' Normally, that translates to 'rose-carmine to carmine-rose.' This is an earth pigment printing from clichés.
NVPH 37b is escribed as 'steenrood' that translates to 'brick red' (although literally stone red). This also is an earth pigment printing, but from plates.
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Posted 07/26/2022   2:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampGuy64 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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