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Great Britain Postage Due 1881 - Value?

 
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Posted 02/08/2021   4:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Bloemzee to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, I got this dull purple UK postage due one penny, probably from 1881. Value of postage due it usually more difficult to find on the web, and so is this one. It's a used one in mediocre condition. Anyone?
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Posted 02/08/2021   4:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not a postage due, but a fiscal (inland revenue) stamp. From 1881, these became valid for postage. The pen cancellation indicates it was used for tax purpose.
It is a design from 1868. It is die 4, first issued in 1878. It exist with watermarks:

- small anchor (1878), Stanley Gibbons F22, ca £ 5 in 2001
- Orb (1881), Stanley Gibbons F23, ca £ 1.50 in 2001

Again, the quality is extremely poor (space-filler), so it won't get near those prices.

Postage due stamps were not introduced in the United Kingdom before 1914.
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Edited by NSK - 02/08/2021 4:56 pm
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Posted 02/08/2021   4:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You still have not indicated what Catalogue you reference.?

I have this as a Great Britain Inland Revenue Stamp
Barefoot#27
Value 5c
It boasts the largest number of any other revenue stamp,At least 124 plates are recorded
Wmk 14mm Anchor
Perf 14
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Posted 02/08/2021   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK,
so how do we recognise the plates Dies on these?
The corner ornaments?
I guess Barefoot is very wanting here.
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Edited by rod222 - 02/08/2021 4:42 pm
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Posted 02/08/2021   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As for the plates rod222 mentions:

F22 (watermark anchor, 14mm) was printed from plates 119 - 140
F23 (watermark orb) was printed from plates 140-145.

SG does not mention how to identify individual plates. It does mention that plate 145 had no marginal number and cannot be identified. So, probably, it will be extremely difficult to identify the plate.

You can identify die 4 by the uninterupted (vertical) line of the throat that extends onto the chest. Dies 1 and 2 do not have it and die 3 has a line halfway down the throat.
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Edited by NSK - 02/08/2021 4:46 pm
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Posted 02/08/2021   4:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Aha!Bingo.
Thanks NSK, found them in the Concise Page 336
I had been using Barefoot, not realising they were postal Fiscals.
New Album pages required
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Posted 02/08/2021   4:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Again thanks to SG Specialised (12th. edition), 2001

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Posted 02/08/2021   5:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice...

So, consulting 2012 SG Concise, NSK, we have.....
(SG catalogue I believe has error here, as Die 3 should read "Die 4")

1: Oval "O" in "One"
2.large corner ornaments
3. Heavy shading in both ribbons
4. Band of crown unshaded at front only

F22 Now £8.50 £10
F23 £8.50 $10 (Inverted Wmk £130)

Listed as "purple" in SG , "Lilac" in Barefoot.
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Edited by rod222 - 02/08/2021 5:05 pm
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Posted 02/08/2021   5:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@rod222

To add some spice when making those pages, allow for shades:

F19: reddish lilac (shades), reddish purple (shades), dull purple (pale to deep)
F20: reddish lilac, dull purple
F21: reddish purple, dull purple
F22: dull purple, reddish lilac
F23: reddish lilac, dull purple, slate-lilac.



My 1995 Concise has the same descriptions as my 2001 Specialised Vol. 1

Prices, of course are for fine, postally used. OP's example is fiscal use and poor.
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Edited by NSK - 02/08/2021 5:08 pm
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