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France Ceres Blue 25 Centime - 1849?

 
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Posted 02/16/2021   11:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Bloemzee to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, I got this blue 25 centime stamp from France, depicting Ceres. It was placed in my album under '1870'. I am not aware of imperforate blue 25 Ceres stamps from that or following years? It seems to me this stamp is from 1849-1850, right?

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Posted 02/16/2021   12:29 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Or French Colonies ... or cut-down perforated ...
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Edited by GeoffHa - 02/16/2021 12:31 pm
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Posted 02/16/2021   6:26 pm  Show Profile Check gmot's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The tightness of the margins is suspicious, think I can see perf traces at the bottom margin.
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Posted 02/16/2021   7:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice even zero width margins says trimmed perfs to me. Imperf and sloppy just don't get than even...
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Posted 02/16/2021   10:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Andyrich74 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I know almost nothing about French non-colony stamps and the first thing I thought when I saw this stamp was "this was trimmed." Completely anecdotal; but just does not look right.
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Posted 02/16/2021   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My 2014 Classic Specialised has the French Colonies 25c at $13 and the France 25c at $40

Considering we're not talking about vast sums of money I'm surprised somebody bothered to trim the Colonies issue.

Given there is a 23 year gap between the two, does anyone know if the same plate was employed?
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Posted 02/17/2021   01:34 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby - I think the trimming would have been that of the French perforated 25c stamp issued after 1871.
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Posted 02/17/2021   03:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Geoff.

Note to self: read the catalogue more closely!
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Posted 02/17/2021   11:40 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, must tattoo that on my wrist. The 1871-72 Colonies issues were printed from the same plates as the first French issue.
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Posted 02/18/2021   07:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bloemzee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In meantime I compared a few stamps supposedly truly from 1849, and I definitely get your points. Wasn't a bad decision after all from the original owner of my album to put the stamp under '1870'. 60+ years ago he apparently figured the same....
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Posted 02/19/2021   02:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Yvert-Tellier catalog mentions 3 types for this stamp (with perforations)





The stamps for the colonies are the same as the stamps for France with the only difference that they are not perforated.
I hope it will help you


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