Spain Francisco Franco Stamp Questions

Got two stamps here I'm trying to get a better understanding of.somethings
last question for the day!



One on the left (50cent #676 or #699) far as I can tell
Curious about the paper(surprise!) looks like (straw)front and back?




One on the right (20 cent violet #672 or #694) far as I can tell
My question about this one is about the lines on the back
Is it from glue applications? (like some USA stamps) or something else?

Your 50c is Scott 699; 683 would have the imprint SANCHEZ TODA below the frame at lower right:
It looks like the engraved issues from about that time can have either grayish white or pale straw (or toned) paper. It might be just age, but I doubt it. These definitives were used for up to about 15 years, so there are several printings of them. Then there's also likely going to be some variation in paper, ink shades, etc. It would take a dedicated specialist to sort that stuff out.

Here's my 2 Scott 695a, two different shades with the caveat that used stamps might have been affected by exposure to sunlight or chemicals:

grayish white


pale straw

your 20c is Scott 693a, perf 13 x 13.5:
I believe that's correct, the lines have something to do with the gumming machinery/gumming process.

My pale straw stamp also has those lines, magnified here:

Thanks hy-Brasil
Thanks for the explanation, what catalogue would be the go too for Spain?
Not looking too deep yet for now they go in the book

EDIFIL is the standard catalog for Spain. Older ones are often available on ebay and elsewhere.

I'll probably never get around to them :)
maybe one day I guess

Knowing nothing about the gumming of this issue ... the lines on the back are very similar to the waxy residue damage from being in a magic stick photo album.

So is pale straw a colour or paper type "referring to the pieces of straw" in the paper?

It's a color. The stuff embedded in the paper is wood fibers, they were using cheap paper in those days so the pulp wasn't as ... pulped as it could have been.

Thank you billsey!
I thought it seemed like a silly question but had to ask when a piece rubbed off

Straw colored paper: as Billsey said. I also noted toned paper since that is what a lot of references called paper with a natural yellowish color. Brown wrapping paper is the normal color of paper without bleaching. Cook and bleach it some and you get something like this with specks of wood fibers visible. Cook and bleach more and strain out the bigger fibers and you get white writing paper.

Gum lines: Yes, it looks like the magic photo album pages except that those wax lines are much farther apart. The lines appear to be (gum) residue that resisted soaking; Just fella's stamp looks to have most of its gum. Does anyone have a mint copy of the issues that might show the lines?

Not sure why #683 was mentioned :)
but any information is helpful!!
I also see the size of the 20 cts is smaller then on the ones not imprinted



i think I got all 3 varieties of the 40 cts listed in my old scott



for the 60 cts I have 2 listings im not sure I understand the difference(if its what im guessing I only have one type)

New little rabbit hole Spain...... I got some questions about a couple king Alfonso xiii
A49. #336 or 362 and #349 or #366 (far as I can tell)