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Question About German Reich Watermarks 2x And 2y

 
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Posted 10/12/2021   1:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add igopp to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am struggling with those watermarks (see picture from Michel catalogue). Sometimes I think I see 2 Y where it would be too good to be true. I wonder if somebody has a good advise on how to deal with this issue. Any suggestions please?
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Posted 10/12/2021   2:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, two questions come to mind: 1) what are you using to look at/detect the watermarks? Fluid? Scope? Natural light? and 2) you're looking at the stamp in its "proper" orientation when observing, right?
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Posted 10/12/2021   2:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add igopp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Classic_paper - thanks, I possibly did not describe my problem accurately. I mostly use fluid (unless I can see WM clearly at natural light). I also have a scope, but somehow it is not helping me with the most difficult watermarks. In case of German WM 2X and 2Y there is no problems to see them clearly - usually they are very well visible even at natural light. My issue is that I cannot find the objective measure defining type X and Y. For example, on attached picture it seems that vertical size of two rectangular shapes is different, but in real life this criteria is very hard to use. So I just wonder what some other collectors using as the criteria.
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Posted 10/12/2021   3:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the right lozenge group is more squarish..
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Posted 10/12/2021   3:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add igopp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see. It is interesting that X and Y is not the same watermark rotated by 90 degree - they are actually different!
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