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Us. Consular Service Rk 16 And Rk 20 On Document.

 
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Posted 11/12/2021   08:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Johan Buvelot to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
A few days back, somebody offered some documents from 1923, belonging to a young lady planning to travel to her aunt in the USA. Some Hamburg America Line letters etc. I was looking at the material on offer and discovered a RK16 on receipt and a RK20 on her travel pass. These revenue stamps on document are not easy to find so I believe.
Unfortunately the aunt passed away, so she never traveled to the USA in the end.

Posted just for anyone who is interested to see these kind of documents.



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Posted 11/12/2021   8:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add postagedueguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One dollar was worth four billion marks in September 1923.
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Posted 11/12/2021   10:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
>>>>>One dollar was worth four billion marks in September 1923<<<<<


Nice to know, but what is the connection here?


Peter

















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Posted 11/12/2021   10:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
By that point in time, I would guess that people in Germany with the means to do so would have stockpiled as much foreign currency as possible.
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Posted 11/13/2021   04:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Johan Buvelot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This was the hyperinflation period in which many people from Germany/Europe emigrated.

Especially for the Germans this would have been a costly affair, with your money get worth less and less by the week.

Shown another item, which shows the Emigration Hotel of the Hamburg America Line in Hambug Vedder. It was more or less the German/European equivalent of Ellis Island. With 99,99% of the people not arriving but leaving.

The card shows a pretty romantic view, I imagine in real it would have been a bit more grim.


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Posted 11/13/2021   04:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, interesting to see the full markings and context of the consular stamps. Thank you, Johan.
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Posted 11/13/2021   1:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patg23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"One dollar was worth four billion marks in September 1923"

Don't know how it worked back then, but I can't see the consulate taking this for fees.

P/S - Nice documents with the fee stamps.


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Posted 11/13/2021   2:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thought provoking for me and thanks for sharing. My Mother came to the US with her stepparents from the Netherlands via Montreal right in that time period. Her parents both died in the Netherlands when she was five. My Grandfather came to the US from Germany but I am foggier on the time period. Could have been earlier.
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Posted 11/14/2021   12:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add postagedueguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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>>>>>One dollar was worth four billion marks in September 1923<<<<<


Nice to know, but what is the connection here?


Peter


We just had a program on the German inflation period at our local stamp club a couple of months ago and I noticed the date on the documents. Also, when I was a kid I remember those German stamps having denominations of billions and billion of marks. It was fascinating for me back then.
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Posted 11/14/2021   08:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And postwar Hungary was even worse.
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Posted 11/14/2021   3:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add postagedueguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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And postwar Hungary was even worse.


Actually my mom was born in Hungary in the 30s. After the war she told me that her mother had to take a bushel basket full on money just to buy a loaf of bread. A few months later her family was kicked out of Hungary because her father would join the communist party. They were sent to Germany and had to spend time in a displaced persons camp.

Afterwards the Russians began sending people to Siberia and then people started having second thoughts about joining the communist party.
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Posted 11/14/2021   6:54 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hyperinflation in Germany is what ultimately caused my grandparents on my mother's side to emigrate to America in 1923. Back then they had to have sponsorship in order to enter this country through Ellis Island. They worked as a butler and maid for years, ultimately raising enough money to send for my great grandfather in the mid-1930s, who was being persecuted by the Nazi party for espousing pro-worker beliefs. They saved to eventually purchase the farm on which I grew up.

They insisted that English be the primary language of the household because they were grateful for the opportunities this country offered and wanted their children to be Americans.
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