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Pillar Of The Community
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Having trouble with these two fellows. Identified as Edefil # 194T 1878 (Page 8, Tomo V) 25c Is this a Telegraph? (Unpunctured) Anyone recognise the attractive Postmark? Telegraph or Postal Postmark? Maybe Matasellos de uso general  1879 Rombo de puntos negro Page 222 Edefil Catalogo Unificado Especializado (seen image but the dots were a lot finer) Author RK1468 PS: I do not repair the bent Tooth whilst dry, it would snap off, I soak in water, later, to do that.  30c Timbre Movil  Unable to locate in Edefil Vol 5 or 6  |
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| Edited by rod222 - 04/12/2023 5:25 pm |
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The dotted rhombus postal cancellation with a star is normal for the stamp this era, but I wouldn't even bet $1 on it. The other is a prosecutor from the 40s, Spanish State, he wears a yoke and arrows. |
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Canada
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Yes, as Roberto59 mentions, rombo de puntos con estrella (star), also found with rombo interior (centre rhomboid). One of my favourite Spanish postmarks. Common for that issue in black, just Edifil 194. |
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Thanks Guys  Quote: The other is a prosecutor from the 40s, Spanish State, he wears a yoke and arrows. If any member would suggest what Catalogue (Nationalist) this may lie in, please post. |
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| Edited by rod222 - 04/12/2023 8:28 pm |
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Pillar Of The Community
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Again, Thank you Roberto. Spanish TELEGRAPHS Note My note: These stamps were inscribed "COMUNICACIONES" to indicate that they were valid for both postal and telegraphic communications. This was changed to "CORREOS Y TELGRAFOS" (Posts & Telegraphs) for the 1879-89 issues, possibly to prevent their use to pay for telephone calls ? The use of punches appears to have been phased out as the cost of telegraphy dropped and potential re-use was less of a problem. Bib: https://telstamps.org.uk/Telegraphs...ndex-Es.html |
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| Edited by rod222 - 04/13/2023 05:20 am |
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The first telephone call by private line other than by experiment was made in Fregenal de la Sierra, in Badajoz in 1880. The date of 1879 coincides with the introduction of the telephone as a means of communication in Spain. The word 'comunicaciones' would have got a wider meaning at that time.
Your idea might not be far of the mark. I would expect it was due to more correctly describe the use of the stamps due to the change in the meaning of 'communications' and not so much to explicitly exclude payments of telephone calls. I suppose an example of "same difference."
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Just for transparency, the "my note" and comments were those of Mr. Steve Panting. not myself.
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Exposition Filatelica y Numismatica Gracia 1960  |
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| Edited by rod222 - 04/24/2023 04:42 am |
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This is an interesting one. It has full gum, no trace of a hinge. The gum looks original. The stamp is worth very little. I am not aware of Spain selling CTOs at the time the stamp was current. But, clearly, it shows traces of a CDS, but also a box. Also, as far as CTOs go, it is one of the worst examples I have ever seen. Did a clerk at the post office rest his cancelling device on a sheet of stamps?  |
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Pillar Of The Community
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Hello. In my opinion it is a cancellation of roller from Adra (Almeria). |
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I too was thinking it might be some roller as the CDS repeats. Was that roller used to pre-cancel stamps? |
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