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Posted 04/24/2022   2:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Stamps4Life to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So best I can do is this picture to get them in the same shot. Possible that 1 is yellow , the other orange? I dont have an orange reference. Have to run but going to look around online later. Anyone??


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Posted 04/24/2022   3:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
it is a forgery
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Perf 12, which is the forgery, and why?


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Posted 04/24/2022   3:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first one has the ISLAND not centered. Crown poorly done;small letters..smudgy.ect
You can check the sk and aur types.
http://stampforgeries.com/iceland/
For a nice Island display here:https://www.postsaga.is/is/frimerkj...son#group-29
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the one not mounted, the top one, has the corners done differently. also the mounted one is perf 12 not 13 - best I could measure in the corner mounted. both forgeries?
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Thank you perf 12. On my laptop the first picture is very smudgy - I can not see very much detail. Makes me wish folks would post better and sharper pictures!


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I was trying to get both the same picture and didn't want to undo the page or tear it out. Hreres the single one

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The bottom stamp could be one of the following:
1897 small 3
comb. perf. 12.75
wmk II
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1901 large 3
comb.perf. 12.75
wmk II

Oh ,that pic changes everything now..everything into perspective.
So now your last pic is a small 3 type (1897)


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and the one above in the 1st picture, the mounted one in frame is a forgery?
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The one in the frame is the large 3 (genuine)
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ok, one more time?





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what is this nonsense, both are genuine.
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what is this nonsense, both are genuine.



I originally asked because I know nothing about these stamps and am just sorting. I noticed the reprint info, etc., and the info on the orange vs yellow in the catalog and I am bad with colors. But after all this going back and forth, I decided I think they are Sc 21 & Sc 22.... One was already mounted and 1 not. I took the one out of my album to finally ck it and scan in a picture ... One I measure as a smaller "3" than the other - strictly on measurement size , not knowing if thats what really constitutes the difference between a small 3 and a large one. One is perf 13, the other 12.75. The Wmk seem to be close enough for me to call the same - but not 100, 100% sure there. Im not sure what was earlier meant by the Island being off-center. To me, they all seem to be that way. Fake - not sure???
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I originally asked because I know nothing about these stamps and am just sorting. I noticed the reprint info, etc., and the info on the orange vs yellow in the catalog and I am bad with colors. But after all this going back and forth, I decided I think they are Sc 21 & Sc 22.... One was already mounted and 1 not. I took the one out of my album to finally ck it and scan in a picture ... One I measure as a smaller "3" than the other - strictly on measurement size , not knowing if thats what really constitutes the difference between a small 3 and a large one. One is perf 13, the other 12.75. The Wmk seem to be close enough for me to call the same - but not 100, 100% sure there. Im not sure what was earlier meant by the Island being off-center. To me, they all seem to be that way. Fake - not sure???


well one is small 3 and other is large 3, both are considered perf 12 3/4 by Danish standards. (13 teeth horizontally)
but I don't have a scott catalogue so no idea which numbers they are in there.

the watermark, is a large crown, and no, they are never 100% identical as they're made with a huge roller that does 8 sheets on one rotation, so each position 1-100 in every 8 sheet has an identical watermark.

these were printed in Denmark at the time, so knowledge of Danish bicolored can be directly transferred.
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