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Posted 07/16/2022   12:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You can get them from the archives.

https://www.linns.com/news/us-stamp...back-to-2008
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Posted 07/17/2022   10:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks rodgcam, found them!

These are my favourite stamps to collect, the time line (1899-1905) I find things interesting and it keeps me occupied:)

stable socialist government,
Second boer war,
Amalgamated flip flop,
The issue of a fire arm to every officer
Couple other things,
Surly these would have had some impact on Frances economy and on budgets, it amazes me that so much metal was used for postal dies, seems extremely expensive IMO, especially the copper

I got this crazy perspective Louis Eugene Mouchon used what he had to make things work, I read somewhere that he was "all in" for this hobby



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Posted 07/17/2022   7:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On a lot of these I see the samething, progress, passion, strategies.
all a similar pattern, a image
This is not my imagination :)

There are no tricks to this photo no overlay, double image, photoshop or anything , just a 1200dpi scan.
I'd like to go through some finer details but don't have the resources, there are many angles to cover.

But this seems to be there.in one shape or form, in one location or another it's there, on many.


I think there is a bigger picture to be seen here.
May not understand everything, but I think I am working towards something,

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Posted 07/17/2022   7:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is probably where the lines got strengthened. Does not mean a thing, and happens in older stamps all the time. Maybe you need to read some about printing techniques in the past?


Peter
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Posted 07/17/2022   7:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This one definitely isn't the lines being strengthened,
it looks like depth being added, features are being raised?
Same image though.
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Posted 07/17/2022   8:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I suggested you read up on printing methods. When the printer retouches a plate he may just strengthen a line on one stamp or on a whole bunch. Just where they think it needs it.


Peter
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Posted 07/17/2022   8:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not talking about a retouch peter.
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Posted 07/18/2022   2:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another 1200dpi scan,
again, her patterns and shapes seem to be there.



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Posted 07/18/2022   6:16 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fella, France used a lot of typography (think typewriter keys hitting paper) in printing their early stamps, which is a printing method that will result in ink being squeezed, pooled, etc. from the pressure of the die. Also, not as detailed as engraving.

Later, starting in the 20's they started to print stamps with engraving, and some of my favorite prints in all of philately are for example, the French Semi-postal stamps. Just beautiful, very sharp, very detailed printing.

Looking at 1200 dpi scans of typographed stamps, one would expect to see differences from stamp to stamp, due to the squeezing of the ink.

I think what you're looking at are typical typographically printed stamps, and one would expect the ink anomalies you're seeing. Especially the darker ink on the Sower you posted yesterday-- great example of ink being squeezed from typography.

Jim Jackson in his "Big Blue" blog had some posts a couple of years ago re: the use of a digital microscope to determine the print type, and it does an EXCELLENT job of explaining/teaching the different printing types:
http://bigblue1840-1940.blogspot.co...s-using.html

This blogpost was one of his best, IMO, and I refer to it lots!!

Hope this helps.
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Posted 07/18/2022   9:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Casey Magoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As we've read fifty times, he's 'here to learn' as long as he doesn't have to listen to anyone.
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Posted 07/18/2022   10:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh I learn and listen, just don't always agree.
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Posted 07/19/2022   01:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm told there clouds, that's alright
Call it a "whatuwant" for now
But let's work this out,…
Instead of being dismissive and saying I'm just seeing things.

Let's use this one, it's easy enough
(we can break down someone else's if they post a good scan or I have others)


In Postmasters
Filter 20.20.20

Creepy, but it's her


*two below are edited image* hopefully they give an idea,
I know some people don't like them, like I'm trying to play tricks.
just used it to try and show, when more depth and detail is added





For this one,
Original scan


*edited image*


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Posted 07/19/2022   04:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Look at your first picture in your last post. You may see a line that runs left (just below the fifth perforation tip) to right (just above the sixth perforation tip).It gives the impression of a fold, but may have been a natural crease, something that covered the surface below or above the line, or whatever. The colour appears marginally paler above the line.

This coincides with what looks like a dotted almost horizontal line running through the value in the 'filter 20.20.20' picture. What the filter appears to pick up on may be caused by light exposure that is different below and above that line.

But here is the caveat: once your brain identifies the line or what may be something along a line, it will start filling in details. This is why I wrote 'you may see.' If it is the brain filing in details that are not there, not everyone will see it. Put otherwise: others might see nothing because there is nothing and your brain is seeing ghosts.

As people said, there is nothing odd about the stamp. If there is even the slightest bend in the stamp that causes the apparent line, the light will fall different on different parts of the stamp.

So, if at all there is something, the most likely explanation is light exposure. There, certainly, is nothing odd in the printing itself.
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Posted 07/19/2022   04:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
By the way: nice how you appear to have captured 'la semeuse' in the stamp.

No trickery, of course.
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Posted 07/19/2022   04:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The horizontal line appears to me to be that the stamp is in a holder.


I am unsure of the point of thread or the reason in overlaying one stamp image on top of another. It appears that he has a very active imagination and there is no harm in that. But beyond that, I see no patterns or any other epiphany of note.
Don
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