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Posted 07/03/2022   11:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Major1044 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Hi,

I am trying to identify this Perfin. Any help would be appreciated.


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Posted 07/03/2022   1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Guess
Can be possibly 1 of 3 I know of
based on a slanting format of punctures with extensive "blind perfs"

CNR
CPR
AYRE

CPR is my best example of blind perfs.

Be aware it can be an example in 4 different readings, dependent on whether the pane was punctured whilst folded.
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Posted 07/03/2022   5:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Major1044 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Rod222

Your comments are appreciated.
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Posted 07/03/2022   10:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Major,
the only way to solve these weird looking perfins, is to have a thin sheet of
transparent plastic, ink the dots of known perfins, so that one can lay the template over the stamp.
A very involved route, for something that is nearly folly.

Here is an CPR (Canadian Pacific Railways) PERFIN
where we can see evidence of the Blind Perforations
Cheers

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Posted 07/04/2022   08:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Major1044 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your advise rod222. The verifying method described above is new to me. I will apply it for further research.

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Posted 07/04/2022   11:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommtomm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a C-perfin as mentioned by Rod.
They are quite common, so I would try to get a better punched stamp of it.

I think I got hundreds of those, so if you want some, just send me a PM.
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Posted 07/04/2022   7:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Another way to ID difficult PERFINS via "Paint"

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Posted 07/05/2022   06:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely looks like a "C" to start, and the AYRE perfin wasn't used that late, according to the Perfins handbook, so this is either CNR, CPR or CMS.
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Posted 07/05/2022   08:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, here goes.

I took your original image of the rear of the stamp.

I then converted it to black & white and got ride of the excess so it's a clean canvas to look at.

I then flipped it horizontally, as if you were looking at it from the front of the stamp.

For it to start with a "C" it had to be inverted, so I then flipped it vertically, as if it had been applied upside-down.

It looked like the three stray perfins were the result of it being offset to one side when applied, so I moved those to approximately where they would be on the opposite side if there was no offset.

Looks like "CNR" (BNAPS 24).



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Posted 07/05/2022   12:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Major1044 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is great stuff,

Thanks all of you for taking the time to explain.
For similar situations, I'll try your methods in the futur.

I am sure others will also benefit from your explanations.

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Posted 07/05/2022   12:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well done!
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Edited by sak - 07/05/2022 12:39 pm
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Posted 07/05/2022   7:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bk80 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fascinating. Thanks for the great tutorial. Love the new learning.
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Posted 07/05/2022   7:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow!
Methinks Postmaster loves a challenge !
Again, Well done!


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It looked like the three stray perfins were the result of it being offset to one side when applied, so I moved those to approximately where they would be on the opposite side if there was no offset.


That was the brilliant move.
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Edited by rod222 - 07/05/2022 7:57 pm
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