Canada / Sweden 2010 Marine Life Booklet Varieties

Puzzler - is it "bleaching / leaking" through from the front, or transferring from the sheet below it?

PS You should consider summing up your thoughts on this issue for an upcoming BNAPS Topics

Moonbird,
it is not bleaching or leaking through from the front. The outlines are 9.5mm apart from each other on the back as apposed to the front. That is just the vertical distance.

I just noticed that somehow I missed that booklet in my list on page 5 so I am adding it in plus the OFF set notes for the others.

I originally counted 5 out of 15 booklets but now, looking again, it is 4 out of 15, and all of these four are either with a Blue 1 or 2 on the front, three with and one without a serial 6-digit number.

The outline on the back seems very close in colour to the front Blue numbers also. Maybe this transfer only happens when the printer's inking device is readying for a print of one of these numbers.

Regards article, Timbres was the first to bring the transfer to our attention 2 months ago in the summer.

Also, I don't believe I can as I do not belong to the BNAPS OR RPSC or ESG groups/societies. But if anyone is wanting to use any of the above information in the thread to include in an article, you are most welcome to do so. I only ask to please make reference to the Stamp Community dot org website as Mr Harris has done in his article previously.

Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum. Having read through some discussions, I noticed great interest for the Marine Wildlife booklet.

Hereunder is a list of different booklets I have. This list is broken into four sections as follows:

Section 1 - Booklet panes with narrow left selvedge(6mm),no counting marks:
-1 with plain right selvedge
-1 with blue 1
-1 with blue 2
-1 with serial 043676, low on right selvedge
-1 with serial 034863, high on right selvedge
-1 with serial 008262, under blue 2

Section 2 - Booklet panes with wide left selvedge(8mm), no counting marks:
-1 with plain right selvedge
-1 with blue 1
-1 with serial 091094, under blue 2

Section 3 - Booklet panes with narrow left selvedge(6mm), with counting marks
-3 with plain right selvedge (panes are different, see note below)
-1 with blue 2
-1 with serial 012958, under blue 1

Note: In the last issue of "Gorgi Times" there is an interesting article on the possibilities of plating at least 5 different booklet panes.

Section 4 - Booklet panes with wide left selvedge (8mm), with counting marks
-1 with blue 1

English is my second language. I sincerely hope that my input is clear enough.
Please let know if additional versions to the above list are found.
Good hunting everyone.

Hell Major1044 ! Welcome!

Thanks for joining and sharing your information with us.

Do all of your booklets come from Chambley QC area? Or near Montreal?

Thank you for stating the 6mm and 8mm left selvedge varieties. I had not started into that area yet but have looked at my booklets and have 4 of the 8mm and the rest (10?) are 6mm. I will see if I can add that in to the database / list I was still waiting to see how Unitrade catalogue would describe and catalogue these booklets and their varieties. Plus I was being lazy.

Do any of your booklets with a Blue 1 or 2 have an ink transfer on the backs of the stamps? Offset printing I think it is called but that name doesn't seem quite right to me. However, I am not an expert in this area at all.

By the way, your English is very good and very clear.

I can just understand some French and other languages, mostly from stamp collecting and reading and research. Some people can understand French and French Canadian but unfortunately I am not one of those lucky people. Thank you for typing English.

By the way, I have just noticed, after a time has passed by, that there are three languages printed on the booklet cover. English, French and Swedish. Very cool.

Is the serial numbered booklet have a light, medium or dark counting mark please? Thanks.

In section 2 and 3 are the 6-digit serial numbers on the lower or upper selvedge? Thanks again!

Picture of booklet left-hand selvedge widths.
Roughly drawn photo over-printing in red by me.
6 millimetres and 8 millimetres



edit:
I found it easiest to lay the booklets over one another when opened in order to compare widths. Narrow and wide, easy.

One measurement I took was from the edge of the selvedge to the centre of the perfs, 8 mm and the other random booklet 6.4 mm, so perhaps it is a rough 6mm ?

Major1044: Welcome to this discussion.

The Marine Mammals booklet was a subject of discussion at the BNAPS convention in Victoria, B.C. today. There is a lot of interest in this subject.

Any new and exciting news to share Moonbird?

I checked out my booklets for the 6-8 mm variety. Only one is bigger than the others. So 1 out of 16 on my part.

Other thing is that my 8 mm is more of a 9 or even 9.5 mm.



I've aligned the stamps and not the booklet so that it's easier to see the difference. Don't know about you, but there seems to be a bigger difference on my 2 booklets than on Puzzler's photo. Also my selvedge starts almost flush with the edge of the booklet.

Yes, I agree, the width does look larger than those in my scan. 9.5 mm?

I am now adding the left-hand selvedge width into the list on page 5 page 1. Well, as well as I can with some booklets gone and traded and sold.

The trend, so far, to start, seems to be narrow (6 - 6.4mm) on lower number booklets and wide selvedge (8 - 9.5mm ??) on high number booklets.

These width differences do occur on booklets without the 6-digit serial numbers but that is all I have a list of right now. The serial numbers, which were printed one for every ten booklets, were meant to keep track of where errors and waste etc etc occurred by the printers. However, it is an indication of where in the printing, with a continuous web printing, the changes occurred.

The list on page 5 page 1 now has 185 numbers in it. The selvedge widths will be added as I have time to go through my pictures and lists and possibly to re-contact other collectors.

Stamp show (NOVOPEX) coming up in Halifax / Dartmouth this month also, so maybe they will have a display or info on them.

By the way my big right selvedge was on a blank right selvedge booklet.

Minesweeper,
would you have the measurements for any of your 8 booklets that had the 6-digit serial numbers? Thanks!

And anyone else
that has the time, a measurement of any booklets remaining (or if they have gone, so I can put a ? in the list) would be much appreciated.

Some that I have added to the list from pictures saved from online sales I will make a best guess at.

Thanks for your feedback Puzzler. Your had quick reactions to my note. Here are some answers to your questions:

My booklets come from Chambly, Qc, and nearby cities. I was on the hunt for about three weeks. Then most selling outlets started running out. I was told that they were not selling well to the general public as self-adhesive booklets were preferred. In fact they were mostly used on parcel-post.

I did not check for offset printing yet. I'll let you know if I find any.

All the counting marks on my booklets are dark and well defined.

Serials numbers on booklets listed in section 2 and 3 of my previous note are all on the lower selvedge, as they are under the blue number.