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Canada / Sweden 2010 Marine Life Booklet Varieties

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Posted 09/05/2010   8:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Major1044 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the feedback Moonbird. I hope we will eventually ear from BNAPS on this.
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Posted 09/05/2010   9:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Major. Data added to list on page 5 page 1.

Not sent to Bee See yet as I hope to add in more info about selvedge widths.
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Edited by Puzzler - 09/07/2010 11:58 pm
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Posted 09/06/2010   01:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Minesweeper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Puzzler

Everything was 6 mm
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Posted 09/06/2010   01:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, list updated.
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Posted 09/06/2010   01:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moonbird to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Major - I'd say of the several fora where this is being discussed this forum and the BNAPS Elizabethan Group (Corgi Times) have the lead. I have advised all and sundry to check out the Stamp Community list of findings.
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Posted 09/07/2010   01:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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By the way my big right selvedge was on a blank right selvedge booklet.


I thought I remembered seeing some booklets that had wider right-hand selvedhe. None of mine do.
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Posted 09/07/2010   01:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If anyone has access to the new Scott catalogue numbers for these stamps and varieties etc etc I would appreciate hearing about it.

Copied from web sites so far I have found:
2387 Souvenir Sheet
2387e Complete booklet
2387f Horizontal pair (of some sort ??)

. . . further info welcome.
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Posted 09/07/2010   01:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am thinking about moving the big list of booklet serial numbers to the first post in this thread, so as to make it easier to find.

Any questions / concerns about this idea?
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Posted 09/07/2010   10:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add studystamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From the Scott Publishing (Amos Advantage) website:

May 13, Marine Wildlife, souvenir sheet (2387) containing two 57˘ stamps with maple leaf syncopation depicting harbor porpoise (2387a) and sea otter (2387b) of two containing one of each stamp and booklet pane of eight stamps (2387e) with conjoined ovals syncopation containing four each of harbor porpoise (2387c) and sea otter (2387d)
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Posted 09/07/2010   11:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moonbird to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Puzzler.......good idea. But does the site have a database repository function? I know yahoo group do for both files and jpgs. Ifnot would be a good idea to set that up.
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Posted 09/07/2010   11:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Request to previous contributors of numbers and data:

If you can please measure your booklets for their left-hand selvedge widths and also look on the backs of stamps to see if any kiss print or ink transfer has happened and let me know I would be very happy. Thank you.
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Posted 09/08/2010   12:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome Studystamps!
Thank you for the info.

Also list moved to Page 1 and all mentions of page 5 (shhh) changed to page 1.
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Posted 09/09/2010   11:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Major1044 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Puzzler,

As requested, I checked the back of my booklet panes listed at page 14.

With a good magnifying glass, I noticed that all my panes bear some traces of ink on the gum side. The ink intensity on most panes is light, some a little bit darker. Furthermore, the designs are not clear.

On the other hand, I have 3 booklets where the outlines on the gum side are darker, well defined, and similar to your scanned examples shown on page 13. These are as follows:

- booklet with counting mark on cover, narrow left selvedge, plain right selvedge;

- booklet with counting mark on cover, narrow left selvedge, serial 012958 underneath blue 1 on right selvedge;

- booklet without counting mark on cover, narrow left selvedge, serial 008262 underneath blue 2 on right selvedge.

I hope the above information will be useful.

By the way, there appears to be a small color shift on some of my booklet panes. The tip of the big Arbour Porpoise tail exceeds the image frame. On the other booklets it does not.

Have fun!
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Edited by Major1044 - 09/09/2010 12:21 pm
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Posted 09/10/2010   11:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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By the way, there appears to be a small color shift on some of my booklet panes. The tip of the big Harbour Porpoise tail exceeds the image frame. On the other booklets it does not.


Major, good eye. I was scanning a few booklets to sell on ebay
( puzzler47 http://shop.ebay.com/puzzler47/m.ht..._from=&_ipg= )
and noticed the tail exceeding the frame, or the otter's tail hairs extending beyond the edge of the stamp's main design.

It is hard to tell from eye-balling the stamps if this is a colour shift, at least for me. I cannot see how the black colour is shifted anywhere else on the stamp, which it would be if there was a shift.

I will re-scan a few booklets at 600 dpi or more and examine more closely.

I have seen two types so far (at 200 dpi), one where there are only two long hairs outside the frame and one where two long and two short are outside, occurring on all the otter stamps in that booklet.

Some one mentioned that there were possibly 5 plate varieties of thee stamps. Is this how one tells between some of the plates perhaps?
edit: typos and link
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Edited by Puzzler - 09/10/2010 11:19 pm
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Posted 09/11/2010   03:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some scans at 1200 dpi of the approximate corners of stamp 1-4 (row 1, stamp 4) of the booklet with 091657 serial number.

You can see the coloured sections are made up of dots on an angle. I have darkened the exposure to make the dots easier to see on-screen.

Upper left


Upper right


Lower left


Lower right


From studying these dots, one can determine that there are different arrangements of them on different booklets and that means different 'plates'.

That means there are different stamps on plate 1, plate 2 has stamps different again from plate 1, and so on. There are not just two different stamps anymore.

I have not studied them myself, but have been informed that there is an article in the Corgi Times magazine of the ESG (Elizabethan II Study Group) of BNAPS that goes into much detail about it. (not immediately available online.)
BNAPS = http://www.bnaps.org/
E.S.G. = http://www.adminware.ca/esg/index.htm
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Edited by Puzzler - 09/11/2010 03:51 am
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