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Canada / Sweden 2010 Marine Life Booklet Varieties

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Posted 09/11/2010   04:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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It is hard to tell from eye-balling the stamps if this is a colour shift, at least for me. I cannot see how the black colour is shifted anywhere else on the stamp, which it would be if there was a shift.


Well, I was wrong. There are colour shifts.

This may all fit nicely into the plating of these booklets mentioned above but . . .


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one where there are only two long hairs outside the frame and one where two long and two short are outside


guess what, there is a way to sort the stamps out a little bit just by eye. This makes it fun for the collector who doesn't really want to scan every stamp he has at 800 to 1200 dots per inch and study them.

There are two general 'types' with variations between and outside of those pictured below.

I choose two booklets and made scans at 600 dpi of portions of stamp 2-3 and stamp 2-4, second row, last two stamps.

From booklet 020341:
Tail touches frame . . Blue belly . . Green Belly and Fin


From booklet 091657:
Tail free of frame . . Bare belly . . Green Fin Only


From booklet 020431:
Baby touches green wave (or Blunt green wave) . . Short two-haired tail


From booklet 091657:
Baby free of green wave (or Pointy green wave) . . Long three-haired tail


There are, generally, stamps where all the animals seem shifted to the left and the others where the animals seem shifted to the right. I have one booklet where the baby porpoise's belly has a wide white space between the water and the baby.

So, really, these are not constant varieties that can be named for catalogue purposes, (perhaps?) but . . . they are easy to see and collect, no good eye-sight or scanner needed.

Lastly, because I have not studied a lot of booklets yet, just posted my first findings, there may be a way to plate the stamps roughly by animal and wave position, if only to say this stamp came from plate 1 and this from plate 3. Then you would go deeper into the exact positioning of dots after that. if you wanted to. (?)
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Edited by Puzzler - 09/11/2010 04:35 am
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Posted 09/11/2010   10:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was in my hometown of Pointe Claire, Que over the past week and went to some post offices. The marine booklets were still available at some, but they had been raided of all cylinders, serials and tabs. Not surprising as Pointe Claire is home of the Lakeshore Stamp Club.
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Posted 09/11/2010   12:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moonbird to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bridgewater, Nova Scotia had almost 200 booklets when I popped in this week. I cherry picked the lot. I will post details shortly.

Booklets - evidently - can still be found.

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Posted 09/11/2010   6:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moonbird to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found - Bridgewater, NS. Sept. 9, 2010

LL 023882, 88, 89
LL 024045, 46, 47,48, 50, 52
2 x solid counting mark (no numbers)
very light counting mark (blue 2)
very light counting mark (no numbers)
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Posted 09/11/2010   7:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was wondering the other day if some of the smaller, out of the way Post Offices would still have any.

Thanks for the data. Any with 1's or 2's with the serial numbers also, or offset printing, or 6mm or 8mm left selvage?
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Posted 09/11/2010   9:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moonbird to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Numbers as reported. Didn't measure selvage or check colour shift.
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Posted 09/11/2010   9:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moonbird to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
With ALL the Bridgewater booklets the tail extends (slightly) beyond the frame.
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Posted 09/12/2010   1:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moonbird to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Considering selling my Marine booklets. Have 19 booklets pretty well all different - they're listed for the most part at message 1 in this thread. Total face (incl. HST) is $102.64. Offers? O/W may offer one x one on ebay.
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Posted 09/12/2010   3:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have too many booklets also.
But, then again, how many is too many?
What does O/W mean?
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Posted 09/12/2010   4:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moonbird to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Otherwise. saw your items on ebay........good luck. May join you there soon.

Just back from holidays and starting to sort out.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...t_500wt_1154

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Edited by Moonbird - 09/12/2010 4:56 pm
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Posted 09/12/2010   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Timbres to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi everybody,

I check another time the booklets I list this summer for the size of the selvedge, the color shift (Long three-haired tail, Short two-haired tail, and the Green Belly and Fin). And I look back to the kiss print I report last summer. On that point here is what I found: the kiss print on the top stamps is shift 17mm up from the normal position and on the bottom stamps the shift is only 5 mm up. Regarding the size of the top and bottom elvedge (2 x 6mm) the shift is possibly 57mm down instead of 5mm down and17mm up. The booklet is 74mm height.
For the size of the side selvedge, when it's 6.4 at left it's +/-6mm at right, when it's 7.2mm or 8.4mm the right one is +/- 5mm.
There's again my listing with more information:
# 1 4014505 low 6.4mm/6mm offset shift 17mm/5mm. 2 hair tail
# 1 6.4mm/6mm offset shift 17mm/5mm. 2 hair tail + Green belly
# 2 6.4mm/6mm offset shift 17mm/5mm. 2 hair tail
# 2 092936 low 8.4mm/5mm 3 hair tail
--- 020419 low 6.4mm/6mm 2 hair tail + Green belly
--- -------------- 7.2mm/5mm 2 hair tail
--- 048076 low 6.4mm/6mm 2 hair tail
# 2 089369 low 8.4mm/5mm 2 hair tail
# 2 089370 low 8.4mm/5mm 2 hair tail
# 2 -------------- 6.4mm/6mm 3 hair tail
# 1 011716 low 6.4mm/6mm 2 hair tail
# 1 011717 low 6.4mm/6mm 2 hair tail + Green belly
--- --------- 6.2mm/6mm 2 hair tail
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Posted 09/12/2010   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, lots of great detail.

I will see if I can add all that to the list. It will give people an idea, of what is what.

Good point measuring the left and right. I was looking at the trees and not the forest. Good idea to measure all the offset positioning also.

Now I will have to get to work and measure the ones I have here still.

If you want to delete your second post (which I and others do sometimes also) there is a delete / garbage can icon in the row of icons above the post.
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Posted 09/13/2010   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have received these from a contact:


Number	Loc	Cyl	Tab	City
006375	Lower	2	none	Owen Sound, ON
006773	LOWER	2	none	Owen Sound, ON
012018	LOWER	1	none	Owen Sound, ON
031848	LOWER	none	none	Owen Sound, ON
031893	LOWER	none	none	Owen Sound, ON
031915	LOWER	none	Dark	Owen Sound, ON
035039	UPPER	none	none	Owen Sound, ON
054060	LOWER	2	none	Owen Sound, ON
054061	LOWER	2	none	Owen Sound, ON


No info on margin widths
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Edited by BeeSee - 09/13/2010 10:30 pm
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Posted 09/13/2010   10:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bee See. Will do.

I know of a collector trying to get all of the variations of these booklets looking for one with a black counting mark on front with a Blue 1 and a 6-digit serial number inside, if anyone knows of such a beast I can pass the information on and link you up. My good deed of the day.
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Posted 09/13/2010   11:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The blue 1 with the serial number is rare enough - with a counting tab, that would be EXTREMELY rare.

So far two are known to exist as per Puzzler's list in Pos #1.
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Edited by BeeSee - 09/14/2010 12:32 am
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