Canada / Sweden 2010 Marine Life Booklet Varieties

Good morning to you David. Hope you are well.

Are those booklets with the 2 dots having a Blue 1 on them?

Are any having serial numbers I don't have yet?

Are your booklets wide or narrow left-hand selvedge?

Is it snowing there yet? We are all balmy here. I mean the weather. Well, I am balmy too, ok ok.

Thanks for your trouble.

I still have no US stamps yet. I should buy more from the US I guess instead of Europe and England and Canada. Any other stamps you need?

Do you have any of the Marine Life used? Canada or Sweden?

Puzzler, I received your email and will go over the data. I think that Cdn-booklets may have bought some of the items from ebay, and since is in Calgary may know my contact; who knows, may even be him. I will find out.

Thanks. I feel bad asking but this is the first time we have had a duplicate booklet number.

I just found one more serial today at a Post Office I should have checked long ago. The lady there did not know about numbers on them so I explained it all to her.

Puzzler, that means you spent the whole day there?

I to was looking back for what I wrote on plating - I finally found these links, maybe that is what you were looking for?

https://goscf.com/t/8204&whichpage=20#92894

https://goscf.com/t/8204&whichpage=4#71458

https://goscf.com/t/8204&whichpage=7#71729

Puzzler - Follow up info on my previously reported 6 booklets.
Four are 6.4 selvedge.
Then 2 have 8.2 selvegde:
cylinder 1 without a seerial number and
cylinder 2, serial number 092378 (this is the only one to be updated in the page 1 listing).

Ha, I wanted to, and I puttered about putting the stamps into my backpack and looking over at the other stamps on the wall. Then she gave me 'that look' so I pulled back into my shell and went on my way.

I did stop into another Post Office to get the joint FDC. I just noticed now that it has a corner bent up on one of the Canada stamps so I may take it back.

Thanks for the links. It was the third one with the Tuvalu stamp I was thinking of. I pondered last night how this all might go together.

You remember that the email from Canada Post to Robin Harris mentioned that the souvenir sheets had these numbers also but in real life they don't.

I thought that perhaps the sheets were printed along with the stamps in separate rows so they have the missing numbers, but when trimmed the numbers came off. Or is separate groups of rows. Hypothesis only at this point still as we are missing data from a lot of Provinces.

The Swedish lady bug sheet (shown earlier) is kind of square and maybe Canada people thought that with our smaller envelopes height-wise we needed a smaller souvenir sheet.??

I had thought of contacting different stamp clubs and asking for data. For a rainy day. Winter's coming so maybe then.

Oh, I am adding one serial number I bought today here in Halifax.
# 030334, Lower, none, none, no dots, narrow left selvedge.

Hi Puzzler, For any of the booklets with serial#'s I scanned last night, if you already have them on your list, it is because they likely came from the people who originally reported them and then subsequently sold them on ebay - that is where those came from. The ones not on your list are very likely from Calgary. Unfortunately I did not originally track where I got these, so I will have to try to determine the sources. I will update on the dots etc tomorrow.

Puzzler


All are with the Blue #1
Not sure how to measure the width of the selvedge
from the edge to the design,to the left or right of the perforation?
Let me know
No new serial numbers to report.
David

cdn-booklets, Thanks for all your work.

djd David,
I and Timbres are measuring the selvedge from the edge to the middle of the perforation holes. But just saying narrow or wide is great also. I am assuming 6.4 mm for narrow and 8.2 mm for wide left-hand selvage as most are very close to that measurement. This is just to give a rough idea of how the selvage widths are distributed amongst all the numbers.

Sometimes with these numbers you start to see a pattern but then one number throws that theory out the window. There seems to be a lot of little patterns.

=Just added a group of new numbers from Cochrane , AB, one from Halifax, and cdn-booklets ones to list on page 1. Total 243 numbers now.

Speaking of selvage width. I have one that's (by ma calculations) between 9 and 9.5 mm. I would have to say it's about 9.2mm. It's on a blank booklet, no numbers, no serial, no black mark.

On Puzzler's list there does not seem to be something that gets close to 9mm. Am I measuring wrong?

Here's a picture.

I don't think that booklet (and sheet) cutting methods are very precise in any country. I know that most Canadian booklets have varying width margins, and obviously Sweden does too. I do not think a real pattern will be found, but who knows.

On a booklet with a Blue 1 only that I purchased today, the 2 dots in the position 2 stamp spiral have gone to one dot (as also mentioned elsewhere by someone else (perhaps just in an email to me?).

In the scan from this booklet below you can see the lower dot is there as usual but the upper dot has perhaps migrated up to be within the upper part of the large blue dot on the right.

The other large blue dot center top is missing part of its top edge. A crater in the bubble.

If that is from the center of the eprf holes to the edge of the sheet (not the edge of the booklet cover) then yes, you are measuring correctly. Largest I have recorded in the serial numbered booklets is 8.2 to 8.4mm. Yours does look to be 9.2 .

Bee See, the pattern I am seeing so far with minimal data is that the high numbers have wider selvage, although once in a while there seems to be an oddity. I think you are right, it is probably not too important

That's what I did, center of the perf hole to the edge of the sheet

I finally bought a first day cover yesterday. The Canadian version of the joint cover, having two Canadian stamps and two Swedish stamps.

The Canadian stamps are different than what I have seen so far in the booklets. They are of a different plating or printing or something. Not sure how to phrase it correctly.

Harbour Porpoises differences:


=the mother's tail extends beyond the frame edge. This does happen on other stamps too but I have not seen it together with the other differences.
=all three porpoises are considerably lifted up away from the waves. There are white spaces below the bellies and the lower porpoise calf, which usually has a green fin or even belly is now without extra colouring.

Sea Otters differences:


=the otter cub's lower leg enters the blue waves above it and there is a white spot above the leg.
=the right-hand bubble (bubble 3) in the spiral is not entering the wave but is just touching it with a small dot above it. Usually this bubble enters the wave. This is a reduced scan so the bubble looks deformed but it is not.
=the mother's hind claw is just touching the wave. Usually this is entering it to some degree.
=the mother's tail extends past the frame by only one hair. Usually this is two or three hairs.

I have higher resolution scans if any wish to see the details.

The Swedish stamps (first I have seen) also seem to have the movement of colours and creatures that the Canadian stamps have.