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Q E II Platinum Jubilee Corner Blocks

 
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Posted 10/18/2022   11:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add smuglr to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi. I'm usually on the coin forum, but collect a few stamps as well. From the States so I don't know how Canada Post does some things. If I have a full pane of the QEII Platinum Jubilee stamps are they the same as having the four corner blocks? I thought so, but read an article that led me to believe the corner blocks were different some how. Thanks.
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Posted 10/18/2022   11:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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are they the same

I guess that depends entirely on what you mean by "same." This issue is available for purchase as a booklet of ten self-adhesive stamps, or with traditional gum (moisture-activated) in a pane of 16 or as corner blocks of four (which is just a pane of 16 separated into 1/4s). So beyond the type of glue and the purchase format, it's the same stamp, or as same as it could be.
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Posted 10/18/2022   3:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add itma to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I must admit that, for the last 30 years or so, I have not followed how Canada Post does things. So when you say "corner blocks" there could be two possibilities:

- plain corner blocks with blank selvage

- Plate or InscriptionBlocks with the printer's information and (usually only for definitives) the plate number in the selvage.

I don't know if CP trim off the Incscription from sheets distributed for over-the-counter sales or which their Philatelic Bureau would supply if you ordered corner blocks.
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Posted 10/18/2022   8:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smuglr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your replies. So are the 3000 production number of the corner blocks part of the 40000 full panes? Also what difference (if any) is there in the 'die cut' stamps in the quarter pack to the stamps I have in the booklet and full pane?
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Posted 10/18/2022   8:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The print runs are:
600k for the booklets
40k for the panes
3k of each corner block

Just check out Canada Post for details. I mean, start at the source.
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Edited by classic_paper - 10/18/2022 8:40 pm
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Posted 10/18/2022   9:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smuglr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@ classic paper Thank you again for your reply. I did start at the source, that is where I got my numbers. From an earlier reply that the corner blocks 'is just a pane of 16 separated into 1/4s' it left me with my next question.
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Edited by smuglr - 10/18/2022 9:55 pm
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Posted 10/18/2022   11:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Call it 40k for sheets; or there were 43k sheets total if you include the corner blocks. And a serpintine die cut is just a single cut from the booklet,; whereas the sheet stamps are regular perforations. Instead of just cutting the stamp on the backing paper in the booklets allowing it to be easily removed it is cut with a die all the way through the stamp and backing paper. Nicer and neater looking in the album, and only available in quarterly packs or yearbooks.
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Edited by No1philatelist - 10/18/2022 11:13 pm
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Posted 10/19/2022   12:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smuglr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@No1philatelist Thank you! So would a collector consider the stamps in the quarter pack to be different than what I have in the booklet and on the pane and want them to have a 'complete set' of the issue?
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Posted 10/19/2022   09:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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From an earlier reply that the corner blocks 'is just a pane of 16 separated into 1/4s' it left me with my next question.

Gotcha . I was speaking in generalities, about how corner blocks are (usually) formed.
As far as what a collector might want, each collector is obviously different. Strictly speaking, a "complete set" would include one version of each SKU offered for sale (one booklet of ten, one pane of 16, and one block from each corner). Probably also a "single" of both the self-adhesive and traditional gum versions. But that's... a lot, at least IMO.
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Posted 10/19/2022   12:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smuglr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks @classic_paper. Guess I'll have to order that quarter 1 pack (a bit ocd lol especially with this QE II issue)

Which generates another question. I missed the Lunar New Year recap in 2021, but was advised to order the quarter 1 pack. It has the booklet and sheet. Again are they the same I would have received if I had ordered the original single items? and as with the corner blocks is their number produced in addition to the numbers listed for the items?



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Posted 10/19/2022   4:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure, but probably?
I'd ask, what's your goal with these, exactly? That is, if the idea is for you personally so say that you have the "complete issue" then fine. But I think that finding a future buyer who would pay a premium for such a thing would be difficult. Collectors usually start with singles and most stay there. Some later add pairs, blocks of four or corners, or panes. But every possible combination?...
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Posted 10/19/2022   4:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Smuglr, the single booklet die cut stamps in quarterly pak or year album are usually exactly what is in booklet, but they are listed as a sub # of the regular Scott catalogue #. Occassionally they do have a different or plain color backing paper rather than the normal booklet backing.
So yes they are considered a different stamp in the unitrade catalogue.
As for the jubilee stamps- The quarterly pack contains only one die cut from booklet and one of the regular perforated from the pane of 16. And also if you do collect corner inscription blocks, just purchase the complete sheet. It can always be broke into the four corners but if you leave it complete it will be easier to sell in the future. It has different selvedge inscriptions in different positions.

In regard to the Lunar New year issue the booklet and the souvenir sheet are exactly the same as in the quarterly pack. They are left complete as one piece as there is only one copy of each different stamp in the sheet/booklet. The only difference is that the booklet is unfolded in the quarter pack as compared to normal folded booklet.
If I am not mistaken I do believe that the 2021 quarterly set is sold out as booklets, souvenir sheets, and the different again press sheets sold out rather quickly, leaving everyone scrambling trying to get the complete set of varieties.
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Edited by No1philatelist - 10/19/2022 4:20 pm
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Posted 10/19/2022   7:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smuglr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@classic_paper My goal is solely for myself, not looking at any future buyer. I just would like to have all actually different items, especially for the QE II issue. I have the pane, so based on responses here, I don't feel the need for the corner blocks, I basically have them, but may order the quarter pack as it sounds like the singles there are somewhat different than what I have.
@No1philatelist That helps a great deal. I don't plan on any resale, but I wondered if there was a reason I should be getting the corner blocks instead of/or in addition to the pane. I've wondered why the corner blocks seemed so desirable. I also usually order a souvenir sheet, if available, as opposed to a booklet, but also wondered if that was a good decision. I have sometimes missed out on an issue (as with the Lunar New Year) and just wanted to know that the items in the quarterly pack weren't somehow inferior to the original release.
Thank you both again for your informative replies.
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