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Posted 10/16/2022   12:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wayner_11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
A cover (not full letter) from 1791 that I find very interesting. The sender and recipient are both in the Canadian history books. I won't try to repeat much info but there is a lot on Google to dig up. The sender is Theodore de Pincier. He fought for the British side in the Revolution. Later became a frontier surveyor. The recpieint was John Collins, a government official who was involved with buying land and creating treaties, etc. In 1791 we had just been split into Upper and Lower Canada, and laying out proper surveys and creating maps was extremely important to say the least...During these times an explorer got his protien fom a barrel of pickled pork, and your best friend was anyone who had a wheel to sharpen your axe.

There is a Montreal stamp on the back. I wish the letter was intact. At the time de Pincier was complaing about not being paid enough. I have found maps online that have his handwriting, but they are in French. The paper also has an incredible watermark that I will take a closer look at. It was probably made in England under George III.

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Posted 10/16/2022   1:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mml1942 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For a very detailed study of Canadian hand stamped postal markings, I would recommend that you check out David Handelman's study on Richard Frajola's website at: https://www.rfrajola.com/DH2022/Can...stmarks2.pdf

There are a number of studies/exhibits on other Canada postal markings here as well.

https://www.rfrajola.com/exhibits22.htm

Scroll down to find David Handelman.

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Posted 10/16/2022   1:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wayner_11 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your input Mike. Checking that lead out... It looks like the top right corner gives away the postal rate as well. Double 9d because it was a letter and envelope (heavy to send). 1 Shilling and 6d. Learning a tremendous amount here... Also, the writing on the back was done by the post office, not the sender.
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Posted 10/17/2022   12:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Want pics?

Poster has presented it before
https://goscf.com/t/37946&whichpage=70#752614 br /
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Posted 10/17/2022   07:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wayner_11 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I deleted the pics because no one gave a
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Wayner,
Your pictures were visible in your original post for slightly under 10 hours. I am not sure what response you were expecting, and no offense intended, but we have lives, families, travel, sports, weekends, etc. Many times it takes several days or more for the forum members to see a new thread/post and comment on it - or to dig up the relevant reference to share. A little patience will usually be rewarded here.
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Does that make you feel better OP, someone took the time and interest to post your pictures.
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BBC 1960.

John Freeman - And if they say nothing about you at all, and take no notice of you … ?
Evelyn Waugh - That's the best I can hope for.

You're in excellent company.
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Good one, Geoff. Reminds me of this:

Pink Floyd 1973

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way.
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Quote:
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Note: Breaking threads like this is not acceptable and if you do something like again you will be finding a new forum to use.
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