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Posted 10/28/2022   8:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add hy-brasil to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Computer vended postage stamps are often called ATM stamps generally, but I am asking if countries other than US have stamps that are sold through the usual ATM/cash point machines like at banks and stores.

In case anyone was wondering, these come in panes the size of US bills/banknotes and are spit out through the cash dispenser.

Here's the first US one from 1990:

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Posted 10/28/2022   8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
FYI on a tangent.
I have an image somewhere, of a cash point machine (I think Qatar)
that dispenses Gold.

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Posted 10/28/2022   11:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here it is (was):
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places...spensing-atm
It also had Canadian Maple Leaf and Australian Kangaroo coins for sale.
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Posted 10/28/2022   11:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow.
Nice catch, Abu Dhabi UAE
The Kangaroo coins, were a surprise.

Were not the Irish SOAR stamps, pertinent under this thread?
If not, why? I muse.


After re-reading

Quote:
sold through the usual ATM/cash point machines like at banks and stores.


Update November 2017: The Gold ATM has been removed.
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Edited by rod222 - 10/28/2022 11:59 pm
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Posted 10/29/2022   01:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No worries, rod. It seems everybody but the US calls computer vended stamps "ATM stamps". I just don't know what to call the US things other than ATM stamps. ATM panes, maybe?
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Posted 10/29/2022   02:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I cannot say I have been aware of any cash dispenser ever issuing a stamp product. Many countries had slot machines dispensing stamps from a roll. Since about the 1980s, machines have been introduced that sell variable value stamps. But such machines require some type of printing device. In Europe, cash dispensers were rare before the 1980s, by which time machines dispensing variable value stamps had replaced the machines that issued fully printed stamps.

In the UK, Channel Islands, Isle of Man, and Gibraltar, machine-vended stamps are called Post & Go stamps. Before Post & Go, Royal Mail used the FRAMA machines and the stamps were called 'FRAMAS.'
In Ireland, they are called SOAR, but most are dispensed from counter devices. The pre-decessors were called auto-vended labels.
Germany calls them Automatenmarken, abbreviated (strangely) to ATM.
Spain's Correos calls them etiquetas franqueadores ATM, although I think ATM was added later, after philatelists started calling them that.
We called them automaatzegels but now only have the stickers dispensed by the franking machines at PostNL counters in shops, much like GB's Horizon labels.
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Edited by NSK - 10/29/2022 02:37 am
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Posted 10/29/2022   03:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Australia Post released Australia's first triangular stamps on 2nd November 1994 - stamps to be dispensed through Advance Bank automatic teller machines (ATMs).

From ASB 228 Jan-Feb 1995:
"As announced in the ASB no.227A(Oct-Dec 1994) special Automatic Teller Machine (ATM) sheetlets of 20 stamps were introduced on 2 November 1994.
The ATM stamps are self-adhesive with a unique triangular shape - a first for Australia. The design features the familiar 'Australian Made' symbol, especially foil-embossed for this issue. The same design is in several colours.
The initial launch of ATM stamps was restricted to twelve Advance Bank ATMs in Sydney and one in Melbourne. The stamps will soon be available through ATMs at more than 150 other Advance Bank branches in metropolitan Sydney and country New South Wales, about 20 in the ACT and approximately 30 branches in Queensland."

They were not replaced when the letter rate rose from 45c .
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Edited by 22crows - 10/29/2022 03:25 am
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Posted 10/29/2022   05:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow!
I had them, but never realised about the distribution !
Well done Jill.

Does that make it an Aussie "First" ?


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Edited by rod222 - 10/29/2022 05:17 am
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Posted 10/29/2022   05:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
HB.
coming to terms with the information now.
Perhaps consider a thread title like "Bank vended postage stamps" ?
Since the machines cash points, wherever they may be situated,
belonged to Banking Institutions, not postal authorities.
What say you?

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Posted 10/29/2022   05:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@ hy brasil

I found this catalog online (free download - pdf format):



For the US the first ATM stamp according to the catalog is:



Countries List:

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Posted 10/29/2022   05:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Cupram,

In the USA, an ATM is a cash dispenser. The German Áutomatenmarke,' or 'ATM' is a stamp dispensed from a machine that prints a value on a label before dispensing the label. The machines do not dispense cash but only variable value stamps.




I am not aware of such ATMs dispensing stamps in Europe. I cannot recall having seen them anywhere in Europe. I have not seen those in Romania. Nor have I seen variable value stamp machines, but I have only visited around ten towns in Romania and bought stamps in a few of them. You, of course, see more of Romania than I have seen. Are you aware of a cash dispenser at a bank or postbank ever issuing stamps as well?
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Edited by NSK - 10/29/2022 06:00 am
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Posted 10/29/2022   06:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi @NSK
I think many people have not seen these ATMs (Klassendorf)
I don't know German, but I think that the period of use of the ATM was very short, 1995-96, and only in Bucharest.
There was a period of very high inflation in Romania (x 10,000) and I think this created problems in using the ATM.


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Posted 10/29/2022   09:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A tip of the hat to 22crows and rod once again.

Just like the cartoon ad on the back, that's one big thing to come out of a bank ATM. I have to wonder if the stamps were spread out to accomodate the machine or what.
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Posted 10/29/2022   11:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patg23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I found this catalog online (free download - pdf format)


cupram- can you show the link?

Thanks,
pat
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Posted 10/29/2022   12:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@ patg23

www.atms.ch/images/pdf/atm-weltkatalog-2008-markus-seitz.pdf
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Posted 10/29/2022   3:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patg23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cupram,
Thank you.
Pat
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