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Postmarks Of Chile: What To Look Out For?

 
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Posted 11/06/2022   02:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add bmbmbm to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,

I'm interested in postmarks/cancels, but I know very little about the postmarks of Latin America, and what one should look out for (the "keepers"). It's always fun to find a valuable postmark on a common, minimum-value stamp. Makes you want to check everything.

I have no idea what is scarce. Little outposts deep in the jungle? Tiny isolated towns high up in the Andes? I assume they're probably scarce, due to isolation and low population but I don't know how to identify them other than searching for population online and extrapolating from that. I assume some people collect them (who know more about the subject)? Are there certain types of cancels to look out for? It does seem to me that easy to read cancels can be difficult to find from Latin America. A lot of cancels seem poorly struck.

Is there a "market" for scarce postmarks, like there's a market for postmarks from other countries (Australia, for example)?

To keep it to one country at a time, what about Chile?

Here's some examples (with some notes on current population from online):
SANTIAGO (Chile's capital, large population=probably not scarce)
ANTOFAGASTA (Antofagasta province capital, larger population=probably not scarce)
CURICO (Curico province capital, larger population=probably not scarce)
IQUIQUE(Iquique province capital, larger population=probably not scarce)
QUILPUE(Marga Marga province capital, larger population=probably not scarce)
VINA DEL MAR, large population=probably not scarce

Hopefully others have more information on this topic.
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Posted 11/07/2022   11:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DonSellos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi bmbmbm:

I find collecting bullseye cancels such as the Santiago cancel in this post an interesting sideline. Also, special terms in the cancel dials are collectable, i.e. "encomienda" in the Vina del Mar cancel. Not sure, but I think encomienda in Latin American postal cancels refers to a parcel post section, others might correct this? Thirdly, you might watch for cancels with "ambulante" in the cancel. Ambulate is the equivalent of railway or traveling post office.

Lots to watch for in cancels.

DonSellos



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Posted 11/07/2022   5:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EdziuMM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, bmbmbm.
Glad to see someone else is interested in postmarks. For the past 20+ years I have concentrated on collecting worldwide postally canceled stamps on which I can surely ID the city/town/place of cancel. I got started on it when I noticed an interesting town name -- Seldom Come By, Newfoundland. It's been great fun!
At the moment I have 75,000+ with no end in sight.
Maybe we can be of help to each other?
~Edmund, Reston, VA.
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Posted 11/08/2022   12:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bmbmbm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi EdziuMM,

Absolutely! I believe information should be shared, and can help stimulate interest in an area, especially when you know what is common and what is scarce. I think it's fun to find a scarce [sometimes valuable?] postmark in amongst the billions of "chaff" stamps in the world.

I think it's of value to determine scarcity of postmarks, as it gives a baseline for trading and selling (what will be hard to find and what will be easy to find), and makes the hobby stronger.

Yet, the information can difficult to track down, even when published. Language barriers, price barriers, availability barriers all cause issues. Pretty hard to find if it only ever existed on someone's personal website from 15 years ago, that can only be found through chains of old links on Internet Archive.

From what I've seen, Australia seems to have a pretty active postmark market, with prices to match. If only a fraction of that interest existed for the postmarks of other countries... (maybe it does, and I just am unaware).

With that in mind, I've been trying to slowly build my digital and physical library, so I know what to look out for.

I think it'd be great to have threads for countries, specifically on their postmarks (post offices lists, the types, scarcity, what parts of the postmark mean). A Primer on Postmarks, to spur interest and research into more specific directions.

Digital Post Office lists are a necessity, as they enable the determination of partial postmarks. Initial scarcity could be as simple as coming from someone's own collecting experience (example: "seems to me 75% of this country's postmarks are the capital, 20% are these regional capitals, and 5% are these villages, I never see Village A, B, and C). I'm pretty young, so I don't have the benefit of having collected for 10, 20, or 50 years, and the experience that comes along with that.

No one knows everything, but someone's opinion on scarcity is better than nothing, and can always be updated as new information comes out. I've been thinking about how one might be able to calculate a baseline scarcity rating using yearly revenues of post offices, length of time that a post office was active, and populations of towns using censuses. Finding that info can be difficult, but sometimes the documents have been digitized and exist online. I do think it'd be possibly though, using a spreadsheet, time, and some critical thinking on how to make it work. Digital documents and Google Translate definitely open up new avenues of information.

Maybe it's because I'm interested in Geography, but I care more about different places and they're names, and less about minute lettering differences (same post office name, but this "O" is shaped different, or this "A" is 1.5mm high, not 2mm... and the like).

To think that a stamp that I'm holding in my hand, came from some tiny village, thousands of miles away, and 100 years ago...a place that no longer exists, and this postmark may be one of the few physical remnants to remember it...Amazing! From a different era, an age of discovery and exploration, an age of conquest and revolutions, an age of empires...and this little stamp and postmark is a physical link to it. I find all that exciting!
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[To think that a stamp that I'm holding in my hand, came from some tiny village, thousands of miles away, and 100 years ago...a place that no longer exists, and this postmark may be one of the few physical remnants to remember it...Amazing!
]

How wonderfully well you've summed up the satisfaction that I derive from collecting stamps with identifiable places of cancel on them! For me every one of them is a vicarious visit to a place that I may never get to see in person. And it's great fun tracing the lifetimes of all these places.
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