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Posted 11/06/2022   11:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Stephen-P to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So there's two 1882 varieties: yellowish brown and greyish brown. I know that it's a longshot because it's been stamped (probably unlikely for the greyish brown), but I can't help but notice the difference in detail as well.
What are your thoughts?






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Posted 11/06/2022   11:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would suggest that you read up on these stamps on www.stampsmarter.org. That site is full of valuable info that can answer some of your questions


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Posted 11/06/2022   12:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is James Garfield (I fixed the title for you), more info here https://stampsmarter.org/1847usa/18...ntifier.html
See bottom pf the page linked above to read on 'Special printings'. (And no, your stamp is not a Special Printing)
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Posted 11/06/2022   12:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So I guess the only difference between the two would be "soft porous paper", because the "without gum" attribute is impossible to tell on a used stamp.
Need to find out what soft porous paper feels/looks like!
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Posted 11/06/2022   12:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stephen, you have all your answers at hand! Please use the "search" function here. You will find the following link if you search this forum: https://goscf.com/t/48078
Also this: http://www.stampsmarter.com/1847usa...perTypes.htm



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Posted 11/06/2022   12:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like that stamp details of known variety are done in great detail on stampsmarter, but I hope they someday put a rarity meter on each type as well. That way collectors will have a better understanding on what to look for specifically without having to do extensive research on a type that isn't monetarily significant.
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Posted 11/06/2022   12:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Need to find out what soft porous paper feels/looks like!


Explore Stamp Smarter and use this forum's search tool. The answers are within. (Excepting the feel part)
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Posted 11/06/2022   12:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh thanks Peter! Sorry if I'm being repetitive... I just like Convo and especially with people that have extensive knowledge on the topic. I'll try to research more!
And that link was very helpful
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Posted 11/06/2022   1:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Best ID approach is to assume that 99.9% of the time you will have the more common variety.
Many folks here have been working with stamp for countless decades and never found a Special Printing and we never will. When you see something like 'they were issued only without gum' and you have a used one, asl yourself what the odds would be that someone put gum on one to use it in the mail? If you see that there are only a handful of a variety known but there were hundreds of millions of the common variety printed, you can safely assume that you do not have the rare variety. And keep in mind that the vast majority of this material has been looked through and picked over by countless others before us; the odds that they missed a rare variety is almost 0%.
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There were 170,894,020 examples printed on only two plates. So there was plenty of wear during the run of the issue, and many fine lines disappeared over time. Plus they were mixing ink by daylight, and they must have been refilling the previous day's leftovers with new ink fairly frequently. So shade varieties should be expected.
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