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Posted 11/09/2022   1:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cheesehound to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, I'm a complete newbie, so please forgive me for what may seem a stupid question - I've inherited a pile of GB FDC's, but I collect GB used.
My question is, given that the FDC's concerned are fairly modern (mainly 90's) and worth little more than the equivalent used sets, would it be a mad idea to soak the stamps off the envelopes and consider them as used?
Or is this really sacrilege and should I then try to swap them for used sets?

Grateful for any guidance.
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Posted 11/09/2022   1:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you like them in your collection of used stamps, that is an option.

If you want to know what happens to their value: the cancellations are recognisable. Since they are philatelic, most collectors of used stamps consider them inferior to postally used stamps. So, they will be worth less than cleanly cancelled, postally used stamps.
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Posted 11/09/2022   1:32 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's certainly not sacrilege. In addition, FDCs are a hard sell, so using the stamps to fill gaps in your collection is a good approach.
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Posted 11/09/2022   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jdtrue66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The FDC has a value more then a new stamp in some cases. Depends on the cachet maker and such and addressed or not and so on.
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Posted 11/09/2022   2:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cephus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
First day covers, especially addressed first day covers have virtually no value (addressees aside). That said, the cancellations are often distinctive and thus, people will know what you've done and collectors would tend to look down on that. Ultimately, it's your property, you do what you want.
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Posted 11/09/2022   3:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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collectors would tend to look down on that


In the same manner the CTO (Cancelled to order) stamps are.
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Posted 11/09/2022   4:11 pm  Show Profile Check johnsim03's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add johnsim03 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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It's certainly not sacrilege. In addition, FDCs are a hard sell, so using the stamps to fill gaps in your collection is a good approach.




I would do it in a heartbeat. When you are filling spaces in an album, having nice CTO examples is much better than having none at all.

The only time I would not consider it is if it was a particularly nice cachet on the FDC.

John
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Posted 11/09/2022   4:29 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So I have two modern FDCs, both have the same stamp. One FDC is a commercial cachet, mass produced, and if I cut off the stamp, soak it, put it in my album...folks will call this a CTO. But the other FDC is one I made, no cachet, I went to the first day ceremonies, and put it into the mail stream. I soak this stamp off, with the exact same FDC cancel on it. It is obviously philatelic, but it is not really a CTO since it went through the mail stream just like any other normal first class letter?
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Posted 11/10/2022   06:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cheesehound to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cheers guys, your replies pretty much confirm what I thought.

I'll use them as gap fillers, but only until I can replace them with fine postally used examples.
Plus it will free up a little space!
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Posted 11/11/2022   01:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I generally collect mint stamps, but I've done this when I simply cannot find the stamps any other way. Often the FDC cancel is not so noticeable, but even if it is noticeable, the only other option has often been not to have the stamps at all. For stamps you could easily find, I probably wouldn't do that, but you might. FDC's are not worth much, in most all cases, and are actually kind of a drug on the market since collecting them kind of faded away. I don't consider them valuable objects. The same for plate blocks which a few times I've broken up for the stamps.
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Posted 11/12/2022   6:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cheesehound to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well I attended the Stafford Stamp Show yesterday and one dealer was advertising 150 FDC's for 75, so I'm neither encouraged to try and sell mine, or indeed to worry about keeping the stamps on their envelopes.
I think I'll stick with plan A.
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Posted 11/12/2022   6:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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...I attended the Stafford Stamp Show yesterday and one dealer was advertising 150 FDC's for 75....


That is a bit steep; did you bother to ask him his buy price?
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Posted 11/12/2022   7:56 pm  Show Profile Check KGV Collector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When was listing 1,500 Aus used sets FDC were a great source of hard to get stamps.
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Posted 11/12/2022   11:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add landoquakes to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I soaked some stamps off first days the other day. :) I prefer used stamps and the first day cancels don't bother me much. There's some higher values of countries like Falkland Islands that are pretty hard to get decent postally used examples, so I go for the first day soakers. Pre-1940 one should think twice or if the cachet is something special.... Hand painted, etc.
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Posted 11/13/2022   7:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cheesehound to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"That is a bit steep; did you bother to ask him his buy price?"

I thought that if the dealer was selling them so cheaply (50p each), he could only conceivably offer absolute peanuts to buy them.
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Posted 11/14/2022   03:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mazdoc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So in this case, what would be a good price for a common FDC?
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