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Double Transfer On Scott #185

 
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Posted 11/17/2022   2:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rlsny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Double transfer is listed in Scott, but without a price. On Siegel power search the only one is a block of 6 mint (one stamp only has the DT).

Anyone have any other story on this? Is there only a single plate position with a DT?

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Posted 11/17/2022   2:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't know the answer to your questions but did find this great image of a used example with major DT:



https://re-entries.com/usa_re-entries.html
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Posted 11/17/2022   3:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, that's a more major DT than what I have. Looking again at Siegel - that's the same one shown there. So, would you call this a minor double transfer - or maybe not even that?

Here's a zoom in:

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Posted 11/17/2022   3:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would call it a DT just not the same one as the Siegel and Reentry examples. Minor seems like a fair description?
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If both are DTs, yours and the Siegel illustration. The real question is, to which DT, Siegel, yours or another one (or all) was used by Scott to list the DT.

A price of "-" just means there is not enough information or demand for an item to determine a useful value, be the item rare or quite common. See the first paragraph of "Understanding valuing notations" on the Scott Numbering Practices and Special Notices pages beginning on page 19A in the 2022 US Specialized. Remember the same number of each type of double transfer and short transfer were produced so one is initially no more or less rare than the others but retention after 140+ years can change those numbers. Now demand, that is hard to determine with something that is not traded much due to the specific DT. My belief is many want 185 and are happy to get one and if it has a DT or short transfer, the comment is, "oh" if they notice. Few are looking for this DT/ST only on 185s.

One needs to look in the early documentation to see how these plate varieties were discussed as they were unearthed, noticed and written up. That will be a challenge in of itself.

Me, I am looking for a DT on a pre-185 item which is dash listed in Scott also. The only copy I have seen sold (Siegel power search was a bust, 67 pages and two lots not illustrated with only a 50-50 chance the described stamps two were what I want) was on ebay and for condition (so-so), it went just over catalog of a normal item. What makes my search hard is it is for a position which many collectors did not save because even if pristine, it was not a desirable item to fill one's page's space.

Edited for more power search detail.
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Edited by Parcelpostguy - 11/18/2022 12:45 am
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I see this as an inking issue, not a dbltraffic. The re-entry site example is a true dbl trsf.
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Posted 11/17/2022   8:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I spent a few seconds wondering what dbltraffic meant. Thought it must be technical term. Lol.

Anyway, I definitely think that is a possibility. I know in general people tend to see DTs everywhere. There's a lot going on in the stamp and it may be one or the other. But I'm less excited about it now.

Glad I asked. Thanks all.

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Posted 11/18/2022   12:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I see this as an inking issue




Having now taken the time to really examine the illustration. What I see is areas of white giving a quick visual of a DT but the white areas are all within the naturally occurring "heavy ink" areas. And more importantly the thin vertical lines above and below the letters in the ribbon show no doubling at all unlike what would be expected if a DT.

As with all DTs if not recorded as known, you need to find a second one for proof.
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