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Need Verification On A NSW 1 Penny Red

 
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Posted 01/06/2023   5:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Harper1249 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Greetings all. I have been going through a large stock book of foreign material and came across this one penny variety from NSW. They all appear to be the same with perf. 11x12, red and watermarked with the large crown and NSW. Am I correct that these would be from the 1882-91 series (Scott #61)? The cancels look very similar to revenue cancels i've seen (initials and date) and there are several cancels with the word "banking" in them. Where these used as revenue stamps? Finally, I am attaching a better resolution version of one that appears to have a perforation error on it and wanted to get your all's opinion. There does appear to be creasing in the area of the rogue perforations indicating the sheet may have got jammed up in the perf machine. It might also be a perfin but its seems early but I know nothing of NSW perfins. Thanks in advance.

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Posted 01/06/2023   6:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Harper1249,

Yes these would be Scott #61. They were available for revenue usage under the Stamp Duties Act of 1880.

I don't think the highlighted stamp is a perfin, but that isn't to say that it could be. Perfins on DLR stamps are quite scarce.

It looks like it's been caught up in a perforating machine in some way.
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Posted 01/06/2023   11:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the confirmation Bobby De La Rue. I also wanted to ask about the variations in the stamp impressions especially the outer frame lines. Was this the result of how reliefs were transferred to the plate or is it just poor printing? Possibly a worn plate?

Thanks again for answering my questions.
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Posted 01/07/2023   12:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A new 1d plate was created in 1884 (ie: 2 years after this paper came into use).

This plate shows signs of wear on the later dated examples I have. The stamp was superseded in 1888 so it had quite a short life, but was resurrected in 1891 to print the halfpenny provisional, when it was noticed that it was in pretty poor shape.

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Posted 01/13/2023   08:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommtomm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Of course it is a perfin with an incomplete punch.
I couldn't identify it in the catalog, but for me there is an N, an E and maybe a part of a W to see.
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Posted 01/13/2023   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What catalogue are you referring to tommtomm?

Also, could you point out the lettering you're seeing by way of drawing lines on the image?
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Posted 01/13/2023   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To me the perfin holes have paper crease lines that match, the out of liniment
perfin holes.
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Posted 01/13/2023   8:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If it is possible to pencil in the presumed perfins so we can discuss them, great. If not, can we at least describe the observed orientation of the presumed letters?
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Posted 01/13/2023   8:37 pm  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Harper1249,
Dave Elsmore or David Coath may be able to help you identify the perfin.
Their emails are available at the bottom of the 'Perfin Stamps of Australia' page here:
https://www.perfins.com.au/
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Posted 01/13/2023   9:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hopefully this will help.



With the obvious creasing, in my opinion it's a misfired perforation, whether it's a perfin or not.
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Posted 01/13/2023   10:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Klingon?
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Posted 01/14/2023   01:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bank cheque punctures?
Till receipt punctures?
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Posted 01/14/2023   01:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't feel like a traditional perfin to me...of course, I can't i.d. it, so I can't be sure, but "puncture cancel" feels closer to correct.
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Posted 01/14/2023   02:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What adds to its mystique,
is the lack of similar punctured stamps.

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Posted 01/14/2023   02:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sticking with my EFO summation, although Cjd did make me laugh at the Klingon remark!
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