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Russia 1908 7k Error

 
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Posted 01/09/2023   02:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Pshann to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi
It appears they have printed on the reverse side.
Watermark looks a standout.
I have searched the internet but can't find anything similar.
Would appreciate any comments
Thankyou

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Posted 01/09/2023   02:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is a strange-looking Ukrainian overprint.
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Edited by NSK - 01/09/2023 02:47 am
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Posted 01/09/2023   02:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nsk
Thanks
Do you think it is a forgery?
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Australia
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Posted 01/09/2023   02:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Posted 01/09/2023   07:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a ODESSA II overprint , on a Russian 1909-12 issue with varnish lozenges on the face . minmium catalog value as a mint stamp .. No reason for a forger to make a copy .
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Posted 01/09/2023   09:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Something was done to that stamp . Those varnish bars on the front of the stamp are unusal strong ,I am not sure if it was a heavy stamping of varnish or the stamp was dipped into something like watermark fluid or solvent. It would take a Russian expert to comment on the appearance .Paper looks funky from the rear .
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Posted 01/09/2023   11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp itself looks normal for the issue. The trident handstamps were done by hand for these and there are countless variations beyond what Scott lists.
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Posted 01/09/2023   2:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all
Appreciate the feedback
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Posted 01/09/2023   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry but "The stamp itself looks normal for the issue " I have to disagree with that .
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Posted 01/09/2023   6:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Why?
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Posted 01/09/2023   6:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the 7 kon Russian stamp and I have 15 copies of the other stamps in the same set and none look like those scanned above . On my first stamp you can see the varnish lines


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Posted 01/09/2023   6:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe the stamp was bleached out ,to show the varnish lines, so to stand out . Something was done ,I just don't know what !
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Posted 01/09/2023   7:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've never noticed seeing a Russian (or Austrian, for that matter) stamp with varnish bars that had "tropicalised" varnish; is that a thing? (If it is, I'd imagine it might look something like this.)
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Posted 01/09/2023   11:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have never seen anything like it before,
and I get some nasty stamps in "swaps" sometimes.

Then again, one member on SCF mentioned he used boiling water in his soaking of stamps, I guess anything could happen.
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Posted 01/10/2023   12:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What is perplexing everyone?
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Posted 01/10/2023   12:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For me the varnish bars being seen from the front like that.
I just put it down to bad husbandry.
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Edited by rod222 - 01/10/2023 12:23 am
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