Need Help About This Stampless UK Scottland Cover Mailed 1848

For those interested, Allan Oliver's guide to handwriting can be found here:

https://www.gbps.org.uk/information...20Oliver.pdf

Nice! Thanks Bobby.

Dear Bobby many thanks for your help

HELLO every one ; I will photos for more letters for the same person and his family I will add photos for the out cover only if I got a question I will add after the photo hope someone can help.


this is the front and back of the cover I thinkthe name is Miss Scott and the address is Jones street did am right? the city name I cant read also I need to know what is the number "2" stamped in big before the address?




also I need help to read the address and I think also it is for miss Scott





also is this for Miss or Mrs Scott ? and I cant read the address , and for the back the lines under the date I need to read them I think the first word is Lady the seconed word is important I cant read?

i will the rest after a while.

Hello Mottaz,

I think the first item is addressed to William Scott-Moncrieff Esq.

I don't recognise the street name but it's in Edinburgh.

Hi mottaz,

First Cover: Miss Scott Moncrieff, 1 Jones Street, Edinburgh. The back shows a straight line AIRDRIE and a boxed datestamp that looks like it says 6 O'CLK PM 13 JUL 1839, applied at Edinburgh. The 2 is a handstamp, also applied at Edinburgh, to denote postage due.

Second Cover: Same addressee, at W Robertson's Esq, 16 Moray Place, Edinburgh. The back has the Dalkeith dated box and the circular handstamp is the Edinburgh receiving mark. The ink 1 on the front is postage due.

Third Cover: Wm Scott Moncrieff, Dalkeith, NB. NB = North Britain. Endorsed pd (ie: paid) at lower left. Backstamp of Hastings. 1 in red on front denotes postage paid. The PAID handstamp in red was applied in London, and is rather late use.

This is most likely the man:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial...tt-moncrieff

An amazing place is Greyfriars.

Hope this info helps!



NB: Small edit as nigelc has better eyes than me!!

I've written the surname above with a hyphen as "Scott-Moncrieff" but on these letters it seems to be simply "Scott Moncrieff".

So the "Miss Scott" is actually Miss Scott Moncrieff.

I've just read some of the earlier posts and I see a lot of discussion on members of the family.

I assume the large "2" is charge mark of two pence.

It's hard to read the postmarks on the first letter but I wonder if the first mark on the back is a straight line "AIRDRIE".

I'd guess the black sealing wax my indicate a mourning letter of some kind.

Can you read the contents of the letter?

Nicely described Bobby

I would not have got Pd, NB, or the Paid Hammer




Would not have got that either Nice Nigel !

16 MORAY Place, EDINBURGH.

Hi nigelc,

Not sure about the black sealing wax being an indicator of a mourning cover? I've got plenty of covers with black sealing wax that aren't mourning covers.

Thanks Rod

Right you are, I had never seen black sealing wax, prior.

Hi Rod,

Nice photo of Moray Place with its railings intact. It takes me back to the days I lived in Edinburgh.

However, it was Jones Street that I didn't recognise.

Beat me to it Nigel,
According to my list of 4,294 no Jones street exists.
Perhaps closed and built over?

Any guesses on this street?
Looked like JONES street to me, but no.

There are 4,294 streets in Edinburgh, dashed if I can find anything similar.
First Letter? J ? H?

Give me any guesses, no matter how outrageous


Perhaps the sender mistook Johns Street (lane , Place) for Jones Street?
The only "JO" I have

Forres Street?

The street does actually exist.

Jeepers !
You're on song today Bobby.
( I had tried "F" but had that 3rd character a def N)