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Posted 02/13/2023   11:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add EdziuMM to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This Italian stamp was canceled in Cividale. My sources show Cividales in the provinces of Mantova and Udine. Up at the top right is a second cancel strike showing the part where one usually sees the province name. This fragment seems to say ...ASSIS... But there is no Italian province with ASSIS in its name. Could this be a railway cancel: Cividale to Assisi?
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Posted 02/13/2023   12:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Note the difference in the thickness of the outer rims.
And the shape and thickness of the lettering styles.
It would suggest two devices unrelated to each other, rather than the top and bottom portions of the same device.
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Edited by John Becker - 02/13/2023 12:42 pm
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Posted 02/13/2023   12:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EdziuMM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good point!
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Posted 02/13/2023   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
looks like "ASSIC" to me not "ASSIS" - could it be "ASSICURATA" (insured)
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Posted 02/13/2023   1:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EdziuMM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Another good point!
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Posted 02/13/2023   1:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EdziuMM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Too bad that the bottom of the cancel with CIVIDALE in it got lost.
You win some...you lose some!
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Posted 02/13/2023   3:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I seem to read it "ASS,C"
I do not see an i


Quote:
Too bad that the bottom of the cancel with CIVIDALE in it got lost.


Curiously, I checked my collection of 1700 stamps
for Pmks during that period.

1. Very few Pmks "SON" almost all, are missing the bottom of the CDS
suggesting the regime of adhering the stamp to the top right corner
was well heeded, and the hammers on left a half strike on the stamp itself.

None of mine had any ASS,C most assicurata, were auxiliary handstamps

Google failed to locate any.

The majority of full strikes are on the larger vertical format stamps like yours.

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Edited by rod222 - 02/13/2023 4:04 pm
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Posted 02/13/2023   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EdziuMM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, rod222! Really appreciate your (and others') efforts for me.
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Posted 02/13/2023   6:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I think I now see an I "ASSIC"
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Posted 02/14/2023   03:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Venezia
Assicurate
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Posted 02/14/2023   04:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Others noted, bottom inscrip

Posthorn (70's onwards)
Ordinaire
Ferro
Reccomend
Poste-Ferro

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Edited by rod222 - 02/14/2023 04:29 am
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Posted 02/14/2023   2:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cividale in Mantova is called Cividale Mantovano. It is a 'frazione,' i.e., an administrative subdivision of Rivarolo Mantovano. These frazione were created in the 1920s and 1930s and, usually, are villages and hamlets surrounding the main town of a community.

Cividale in Udine province, is called Cividale del Friuli. It is referred to as 'Cividale.'

Belluno's old name is Cividale del Belluno. Like Cividale del Friuli, its name refers to the old Roman 'civitas.'

There is, however, a frazione of Mirandola in Modena province.

The most likely candidates are the one in Modena if it had a post office at all, or the one in Udine province (Friuli).

My money would be on Cividale del Friuli. Google search shows a Lombard-Venetian stamp cancelled 'Cividale.' Unfortunately, the link shows two stamps on ebay of which the one shown in Google search has a cancellation for Venezia.
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Edited by NSK - 02/14/2023 2:54 pm
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