There Is A Stamp God

This must be an elaborate wind-up, Spock. Surely you're not seriously suggesting these Israeli stamps are still mint? They're skips, and I bin skips.

If you sell me a Barwani SG 15



without gum as mint, I'll be perfectly satisfied. It was issued without gum. If you sell me a Barwani SG 38aB



without gum as mint, you'll hear the explosion from India.

THANK YOU TONY !


Spock......do you STILL insist that used uncanceled stamps can be described as mint ??????

Tom,
you have an opinion fine but get on ebay and go search for stamps that have been peeled of envelopes and they are sold as mint and they are not $ stamps they are 1948 10 rs gandhi sure in your book they are used fine I get it but in my book they never will be used until they are cancelled. in my book they are not and guess what in the market here they are not.


simple put here if a stamp is not canceled here it is mint. you might not like the terminology and you might not agree with it and thats fine but it does not give you the right to throw tantrums and divert the thread away. I have tod you many times lets agree to differ and let me and my posts be but no you will not and this kind of immature behavior is a disgrace. since you only understand caps.

NO MORE RESPONSES TO YOU. You can type whatever you like I am not going to respond. Have a great day.


Tony,

The israeli stamps can still be used for postage right? if they can still be used for postage then you tell me how are they used? Also read my posts and see what nr has been doing since then do we need to encourage such behavior?

Some people will call this used some will call it mint no gum some will call it uncanceled etc. It is their right to call it sure we may think they are wrong and maybe they are but to insist and insist and destroy threads is the hallmark of a negative character especially if they have been asked to stop repeated times.

exactly BC now how would you know if a stamp with no gum has gone through the postal system. Done right both will look exactly the same since you dont know and cant prove it either way. does it matter?

some will say yes some will say no.

I am not arguing the definiton bob but how will one prove intent later on. if you see this stamp at a store lets say 5 weeks later and have no knowledge about it what are you going to call it?

how do you know if someone removed the gum, the stamp was printed without gum, or it survived an actual mailing?


Another example. I give you 4 stamps to stick on an envelope to mail, I own the stamps but you like the stamps and subsitute them so are the intended stamps now used and what is the opinion if one removes them from the envelope prior to mailing?

what I am trying to say is that these are just semantics and intent is very hard to prove.

I respect your 2 cents Harry :) now can you raise it to a couple of hundred dollars :). I personally dont agree with it because intent is difficult to prove but I understand where you are coming from :)

for some of us who are still following the original thread this is where we are. If you are following the original thread please ignore any outbursts from Tom as he he tries to protect the world from me :) ( amazing that someone can think that the world follows my posts I cant really be that interesting but then maybe I am again ) it is best we focus on the job at hand otherwise it will take is forever to get to the promised land.

I recommend we create a stamp with 2 forms one male and one female on the same stamp. Maybe I can throw in a prize for the winning design. some stamps from india mint of course as the prize lets see if we can get enough participants. Donna has indicated her willingness earlier.

What say you me hearties :)

I have been (and still am) out of the US for the past couple of weeks. Because of limited internet access, I haven't been checking in. I received an email to check out this thread, and see that I was asked to chime in early on in the thread. Sorry for responding so late, and maybe responding isn't such a good idea, after having skimmed through this thread.

Please don't take this as an expert opinion, but in the philatelic circles I hang around (it's a pretty small circle -- me, lots of stamps, an angry wife, and a few fat silverfish)...

Given that we know the history of the Israeli stamps in question, the stamps should be categorized as used and uncanceled.

Any stamp that is used for payment of postage or any postal fees (in some cases, stamps were also valid for fiscal use), is considered used, regardless of whether or not it gets cancelled, sharpied, run over by a truck, hoarded into my collection, or despised by iPad users.

I don't want to get into a debate about what constitutes a "mint" stamp.

I realize that we often see listings of stamps as "mint no gum" or "unused no gum". There are various reasons for that (some legitimate), but I don't want to get into the details.

However, if we know the history of the stamp (as in this case), then it should be presented as used but not cancelled. Admitted, the great majority of sellers don't bother with this distinction.

OK, please don't throw tomatoes, I prefer something softer...

By the way, I receive a lot of packages deliver by USPS, and one of my great annoyances is the large number of stamps on the packages that don't get cancelled. If I considered packages only, it runs over 33% uncancelled! I prefer my used stamps cancelled.

Oh, well...

Regarding the first man to appear on a postage stamp, actually it was me, but that stamp/cover no longer exists, so I can't really prove it. You'll have to take my expert word for it!

But if you want to be picky, then yeah, the first man to appear on an officially nationally issued postage stamps would be Benjamin Franklin, as mentioned earlier in this thread.

However, if you included local, private, or revenue/fiscal stamps, then it is definitely some other guy. I do not have the resources with me to show an example, and I'm sure someone else could find an even earlier example, since I don't collect those areas.

That's probably all for me until I return to the US.

k

Now, back to your regularly scheduled thread topic...

k

About what I expected from you.........quick to spew crap and cast dispersions but no backbone to admit you are wrong.


As long as I am venting.......This is not a Star Trek convention site and I object to your incessant infusions of worthless garbage
from your tiny fantasy world that ruins quality discussions such as TonyMac's discussion on the States of India. From this point on
I will be asking the moderators to remove all references to Star Trek and your fantasy.

Tom, let him argue with himself. He looks sufficiently silly without any help. Used can be mint. Yeah, ok. Referencing ebay auctions as a source was the icing on the cake. He probably buys into the "Mint condition for its age" schtick too.

Thank you scubu........


.....and welcome to the club......most discussions here are of a higher quality than this.

Tom,


you can do pretty much what you like. Last time I checked you were not the owner of the forum. I doubt that the mods will listen to you. in my book you should stick discussing stamps with scubu, he seems right at your level. you will never be in the same league as k even if you live to be 100 :) now on your way and let me continue running my threads.

I still remember how you accused the newcomer of using the forum and wrongly accused him this past week. I called you on that so you set shop here but that game is not going to work with me so knock yourself out.

you think Nazi tom will allow that?


he is to busy messaging his ego


but thanks a lot for sharing your inputs. You hit the nail on the head. Lots of things are not black and white. but I am glad you are here otherwise all that tom would do is come here and shout looks like he even got some of his friends to register on SCF to help with that :)