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Is This Really A First Flight?

 
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Posted 02/23/2023   12:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add papa0802 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The cachet on this cover states it is a first flight cover, yet, presuming Lake Charles is the origination, there is no flight destination (or vice versa) shown. The plane in the cachet is tiny relative to the ship. So is this a mis-characterization?


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Posted 02/23/2023   3:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well it is not an orphan. It has company. ebay listed one has it Listed in Air mail Catalogue as AAMC#29E6. See screen grabs from EB.

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Posted 02/23/2023   4:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
More info on your cover. Although not marked as CAM 29, I am assuming that it is related/was a part of this route.


http://www.aerodacious.com/ccCAM029.HTM

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Posted 02/23/2023   4:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From "Postal Bulletin" number 16463 dated July 14, 1934:



I see no "announced later" notice, but it would then be typical for collectors to send covers "to be held until flight occurs"
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Edited by John Becker - 02/23/2023 4:44 pm
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Posted 02/23/2023   4:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Toward supporting John's comment about collectors sending covers...

From the "The Airpost Journal Issue 50, June 1934" - C.A.M.S. column


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Posted 02/24/2023   1:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add papa0802 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good luck ebay. I paid less than $1 for this, but that was on 2007.
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Yes it is a real first flight cover. Aerodacious and that ebay seller are using the old, outdated American Air Mail Catalogs and not the new American Airmail Catalogs. This cover is listed in the AAMC Seventh Edition, Volume Three as Airmail Route 20 which replaced the old Contract Air Mail Route 29. There were five legs on this inauguration by the US Post Office's contractor, Robertson Airplane Services Company, between New Orleans and Beaumont so one would need to collect five covers to would make the full set. The five, with their proper catalog numbers are AM20W1 from New Orleans and flying westward; AM20W2 from Baton Rouge fying westward; AM20W3 from Lake Charles flying westward; AM20E3 from Lake Charles flying eastward; and AM20E4 from Beaumont flying eastward. At this point in time most but not all first flights were getting backstamped. This is one of the examples where backstamps were not being applied. Your particular cover is an AM20E3 flying eastward from Lake Charles. You can tell by the postmark which shows a time of 10:30 AM. The westbound covers - AM20W3 - have a time of 2 PM in their postmark. Your AM20E3 is the most common of the five legs of this inauguration. There were 27 pounds of mail (about 1,000 covers) on this leg which seems like just a few but in terms of firrst flight covers this is a substantial number. So the ebay seller is just over-hyping their cover by calling it "Rare". The Catalog gives is a value of $5 which would be a full retail price - otherwise it would normally be found in the $1 to $3 range.
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Posted 02/26/2023   1:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add papa0802 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Kimo, thanks for that in depth research!
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