Trieste / Yugoslavia Occupation Overprints On Italian Social Republic Stamps - 1945

An Italian member named alka2 posted this a couple of years ago

These stamps were issued on June 1945 during the brief Yugoslavian occupation of Trieste before the AMG-VG.
The are 2 issues of the 1 Lira, can be the Sassone nr 12, the rare one, if the overprint is on the Sassone nr. 498 watermarked with the crown and it is worth hundreds of euros, or the Sassone nr.3, the common one, if the overprint is on the Sassone nr 506 without the watermark. As you can see it is the opposite of the local issues.

Found this:






https://www.stampcircuit.com/stamp-...world-war-ii

Thanks ROGDCAM ,

Your posting of Jay Carrigan's pages confirm the information I original posted above , that they were provisionals issues for Zone B . Thanks

The posting by others who said ,I want to get this right so I am quoting " during the brief occupation of Trieste before the AMG-VG 's" is wrong they were issued for Zone B ,while a different military occupied Trieste . Glad we got that cleared up .

You are welcome Floortrader. Here are a couple of more cool pages from the Carrigan collection:

Why do American collectors refer to Salo as the "Italian Socialist Republic"? The name is "Italian Social Republic". Quite different,

Jay was one of the great Philatelists,
often terse, but never tired of answering my questions
when I was learning.
Unusual for the uber experienced etchelon

My connection between these Trieste stamps (from an "Istria" lot on ebay) and the page shown was very little more than that the denominations matched. So, thanks very much to all – a big help!

rod222 – This page has been an anomaly for some time as I didn't know where I had gotten it from, either, however, today I found it - it's in the Steiner file: worldwide / Italy_yugoslavian, page 3. Interestingly, the Steiner file shows three essentially analogous Yugoslav occupation issues, all using Italian Social Republic overprints … Fiume – Rijeka, Trieste and Istria.

You may all may well be interested in the link which 22crows gave – very nice documentation from the iBolli catalog.

I have requested a .pdf from the Sassone catalog from the APRL based on your reference. Thank you!

It says in the page posted by Rodgcam that the stamps with overprints were issued on June 11, 1945. Venezia Gulia was divided into Zone A and Zone B on June 12th. And then and I quote "In Zone A, both the overprinted and unoverprinted RSI stamps were in use until Sep.22,1945 when they were replaced by the AMG VG issues. In Zone B, the overprinted stamps were used until replaced by the Istria and Slovene Coast issues, beginnin on Aug. 14,1945."

Not sure how that validates floortrader's assertion as it clearly states that they were provisional for both Zone A & B

Thank you APS

Sorry - Two different major websites give a different timelines and explain the situation ,which fall in line with I said above . So I will quote them ---

"At the end of WW. II ,the region was liberated almost simultaneously by the Yugoslav troops from East and the New Zealand 2nd. Division from the West. This formed the basis for a partition proposed by the British General Sir William Morgan. The Morgan Line was established on June 10, 1945.

Morgan drewup a line then called the "Blue Line " and when Allied troops of British XIII Corp began moving forward to the Blue Line on May 22,Tito agreed in principle to the demarcation the next day with the agreement signed in DUINO on June 10 ,1945 {so it was the next day June 11 when JAY CARRIGAN says the stamps were printed }."


There you have it just as I posted my notes ,those stamps were for ZONE B , The military troops were nose to nose up to the line . So other than carelessness was the stamps used by the public or by postal employees but no official military approval or Government approval . They were not authorized .....

Unless those web sities tell a different story --- Google --" Morgan Line -Trieste " yourself

It could not be clearer, if you believe Carrigan's version, that the overprinted RSI stamps were used in both Zone A and Zone B. His description is unambiguous on that point.

Here is one that mentions they were invalidated on 17 July 1945 and aligns with the validity in both zones up to at least that time. It also states these were hardly used and then mostly philatelically-inspired.

https://www.ilpostalista.it/sommario_190.htm