Non-Descript But Outstanding 1959 Postage Due Cover - Which I Forgot To Buy

I agree. And in most cases, the item physically exists, which brings a considerable weight to the discussion. And particularly so when making statements about any item that someone else owns or posts. To call something philatelic or contrived or altered or fake or whatever can have negative financial repercussions to the owner if incorrect and suggests the importance that reasons or evidence or references be presented to back up claims.

Disclaimer. I do not have possession of this cover.

Still in the mail on the way to you?

To have a discussion on a chatboard about whether a cover is philatelic or not is called "free speech". Opinions can and will be given, especially when the whole premise of the thread was set up that way. To start complaining now after the thread was set up in that fashion..........

It's not my thread. So it's fair/professional to denigrate someone's item without providing reasons?

I gave my reasons. If people choose not to accept them, that is not on me. Opinions were asked for, and given. It's not my fault if some opinions are not the one you or others want. That's why they are "opinions".

Pot, meet kettle? I am just an observer here, but it looks to me like you are one keeping this thread going. You've contributed about twice as many posts as the next most frequent contributer to this thread, and that's not counting the gun related posts that have been removed. Looks to me like you may be the one who cannot seem to let go of the fact that some opinions are not what you want.

Just saying.

Truthfully, I don't really care one way or the other. Since people post answers, I answer back when I feel I should. The whole point of the thread was to post opinions, and mine ruffled a few feathers. So be it.

"People just don't mail contrivances to get due mail - certainly not a 16-year old. "

I thought it was the recipient that was supposed to be the 16 year old.

I made the first statement in relation to the idea that a 16-year old (perhaps boy scout) would be sending mail to himself. It would also seem reasonable that an adult sending a piece of controlled mail would not address it to a teen either.

Okay, so I will go with your statement. There is NO, NONE, ANY piece of postal history or stamp ever produced which can with 100% certainty be proven as it was not done so for philatelic or collector purpose. PERIOD.

Thus all of philately is only in existence due to collector creations.

Now that we understand everything is created by collectors, isn't wonderful that the creators of this cover knew how to and took explicit action to create such a rare and valuable piece of modern postal history, Far more rare than all of the 1869 US inverts; which were all produced on casual Fridays.

So now we agree everything philatelic is fabricated, lets do away with the pointless and expensive charlatan expertising organizations such as the PF, APEX, PSE or the various individuals such as the Weiss Certificate et al.

Now in your exemplary wisdom please help me understand:

Is the world flat? Everywhere I have ever gone and looked around, it looks flat to my eye.

Did "men" ( of course I use that term loosely as it is undefinable by today's standards) actually walk on the moon? Of course you can believe everything one sees on TV or what the government tells you, right?

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? It must be a lot since they have even printed the Old Testament on an area smaller than a pin head. Have you seen any new Gallium ion postmarks yet?






Edited for Smilies .

Stamp Community Forum. Come for the stamps...stay for the Dada.

What ever floats your boat. Now you can go start a topical thread:

For some my opinion seems irrelevant as well.

Seriously, thanks for the good information.

I am of the current impression that the note inside the letter read, "John, got to go over to Tonopah. Please slop the hogs for a few days. Thanks, and stay away from my sister. Pine"

Hey, I'm Aesop's bat on this one. It has a slight whiff of "philatelic" coming off of it, but it could certainly be fully legitimate. Probably is. I'm a believer in "tie goes to the runner."

I'll say this...you invited drama with the initial post, and you certainly got it. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Here some free speech words:

Slander
Defamatory
Libel
Defame
Republican

The first four can be "not free" but rather $$$$$ to the speaker. The last word was just an accidental auto-correct issue when helping with a Boy Scout Programming Merit Badge.

Edited for a missing "an."