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Cutting Imperforate Stamps To Get Even And Better Margins.

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Posted 04/07/2023   02:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add bobbkc to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, new to forum and I do not find where this has been answered before. I have several used imperforate US stamps like Scott 1 and Scott 2 for example that are not cut square but have 4 good large margins, but some margins are larger than others. I would like to send these in to be graded and want to know if I can cut these myself to make the margins more even? Would that make the stamp get better grade or is that a no no? I also have imperforate strips of some US stamps and also some for other countries. Can I cut these a[art myself or do I have to send in the entire strips. Some of these could have almost perfect margins if I cut them off myself with scissors. Some of these strips have part of the top or bottom stamp in the strip but off and I don't think I want to send them in this way. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Bob.
Thanks for all the replies. I have collected stamps since late 50's on and off without paying too much attention to actual value. However, now I am ready to get the most value out of my better quality stamps by getting them certificates and some of them graded. Most of my collection will be left to family but I might as well cash in on the many duplicates and questionable's I have accumulated.
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Posted 04/07/2023   05:31 am  Show Profile Check johnsim03's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add johnsim03 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My inclination would be to never do this - I would leave them alone. I shudder even at the thought of it...

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Me too, the endless desire for money or "prettiness"

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Posted 04/07/2023   06:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 04/07/2023   07:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NO for the US classics. The first thing to understand is that parallel and/or square margins for imperforate classic stamps is NOT required for a high grade and could very well REDUCE their value if done by yourself now. You cannot put the genie back in the bottle and once you cut off any portion of the stamp it is obviously an irreversible act.

Look at the stamps in this link for an idea of what a grade 95 or higher stamp looks like:

https://siegelauctions.com/lot_grd....emailflag=on

As for the other imperforate stamps mentioned it is hard to say without specifics. It is however, easier to botch the job than one might think.
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Posted 04/07/2023   08:16 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As Rodg says, what you do with the other imperf strips will rather depend on what they are and what you wish to collect. Some may have greater value and interest as strips. Others may have as much or more value if kept or disposed of as singles. You will, of course, have to avoid the messy cuts many stamps received in post offices and offices 150 years ago.

Perhaps you could upload some scans.
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Posted 04/07/2023   11:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StateRevs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For 1st series revenues, you want the maximum amount of paper to help show they are authentic.

Part of the of process of deciding "authenticness" is looking at rough edges for signs of being cut on a straight edge, or looking for signs of trimmed perfs to show it is bogus.

Making margins smaller is never a good idea for these stamps...

Also regarding these is the authentic ones have a "wonky" look, and the perfectly 90 degree corner & square stamps look phony/dubious.

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Posted 04/07/2023   12:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not to beat a dead horse, but to someone who doesn't collect US, the fact that questions like this arise is just another example of the damage the grading fad in the US is doing. If the end result of a collecting fad is "I need to mutilate my stamp to make it more valuable", the fad is awful for the hobby.

Not intended as a shot at the OP, simply an observation on the state of the hobby.
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Posted 04/07/2023   12:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The OP questions relate most directly to merchantability, not about understanding the material. Commodities for exchange, not for study or even for display.
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Posted 04/07/2023   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I have several used imperforate US stamps like Scott 1 and Scott 2 for example that are not cut square but have 4 good large margins, but some margins are larger than others. I would like to send these in to be graded and want to know if I can cut these myself to make the margins more even? Would that make the stamp get better grade or is that a no no? I also have imperforate strips of some US stamps and also some for other countries. Can I cut these a[art myself or do I have to send in the entire strips. Some of these could have almost perfect margins if I cut them off myself with scissors. Some of these strips have part of the top or bottom stamp in the strip but off and I don't think I want to send them in this way. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Bob.




Especially "before" pictures.
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Posted 04/07/2023   3:57 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I... can't... even...
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Posted 04/07/2023   6:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Collective pain. Waiting for OP response. I consider it a "no no."
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Posted 04/07/2023   7:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Waiting for OP response

The OP did add a few sentences at the end of his original post as an edit. These were added in time sequence two posts before mine here, which makes true sequential reading difficult..

However, no images yet, which makes truly meaningful responses more difficult.

I too would add to the chorus of "first, do not harm!"
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Posted 04/09/2023   8:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Andyrich74 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bob, short answer, no; don't trim/cut anything any stamp like a US # 1 or something very old. See above.

That said, have I trimmed cheap/common Liberian stamps that were haphazardly cut out of a souvenir sheet simply to make them (more) attractive or uniform when mounting in an album; yes. Would I ever alter my US #1 or any other early us imperf; no way.

There's a huge difference between the two examples though.

I'd also guess that an expertiser/auction house might be able to pick up on recently trimmed old stamps by seeing clean/unoxidized edges as well, but that's beyond my area of expertise and just a hunch.
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Posted 04/10/2023   12:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I might as well cash in on


Well, methinks no pictures will be forth coming. More important to get them graded for sale than photoed for flapping our lips (okay, flicking our fingers).
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