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German 1740 Crosse National Mutter?

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Posted 04/16/2023   01:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Pshann to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all
Would appreciate help here.
Cinderella? Face up feels embossed!
I can't find any reference on internet.
Reverse - no wmk
Cannot read postmark.

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Posted 04/16/2023   02:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
German Letter seal, seals the back of the envelope.
Needs an German specialist to ID.
Google Translate : Large national mother lodge to the three Globes 1740
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Edited by rod222 - 04/16/2023 02:12 am
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Posted 04/16/2023   02:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Rod
Were they of the period?
Or commemorative?
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Posted 04/16/2023   02:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Germany's oldest free-masons lodge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand...ee_Globes%22

Maybe the lodge can provide you with more information on the seal.

https://3wk.online/home-3/3wk/forschungsbeirat/
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Edited by NSK - 04/16/2023 02:16 am
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Posted 04/16/2023   02:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Paul.
Know absolutely nothing about these seals, some are private, others National.
Attractive fellows though.
A specialist may chime in.

There you go
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Edited by rod222 - 04/16/2023 02:18 am
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Posted 04/16/2023   02:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone
Interesting stuff
I wish I could read the postmark.
Is this next seal similar?

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Posted 04/16/2023   02:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Rod
Noted
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Posted 04/16/2023   02:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nsk
Thankyou
Just read the link
Interesting!
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Posted 04/16/2023   02:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Google
united kings & laura hutte
superstructure & hut operation

stock company
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Edited by rod222 - 04/16/2023 02:27 am
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Posted 04/16/2023   02:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the postmark- all I can see is "ME"
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Posted 04/16/2023   02:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod
Copied and paste search on the web- nothing!
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Posted 04/16/2023   02:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Actien-Gesellschaf (Aktiengesellschaft, AG) = Plc, So, a manufacturer. Once one of the biggest German mining and steel companies.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verei...rah%C3%BCtte


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Posted 04/16/2023   02:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nsk
Thanks
I just have to work out how to translate to English
Much appreciated
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Posted 04/16/2023   02:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Google is not perfect, but still useful.

Here is a truly stunning painting from the steelworks.
You can almost feel the heat.

Eisenwatzwerk wiki
Click to get the close up feeling of the steelworks.
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Edited by rod222 - 04/16/2023 02:36 am
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Posted 04/16/2023   02:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod
Brilliant stuff
So, without any knowledge or expertise - I'm suspecting they are both of the period?
If so , amazing !
Can't wait to here from the experts and I'm glad I did not discard
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Posted 04/16/2023   02:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gentlemen:

In the title: Crosse should be Grosse (great, large, big).
In Rod's last post: Eisenwatzwerk should be Eisenwalzwerk (Walz = roller),
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