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Posted 05/01/2023   10:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jogil to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What's the difference between these two Canada Mufti (Scott/Unitrade 239) coil stamps?
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Posted 05/01/2023   10:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The perfs on the left one are horizontally aligned while the perfs on the right are not?
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Posted 05/01/2023   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You got it right.
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Posted 05/01/2023   10:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As a flyspecker I notice an engraver's slip on the top stamp - a small line in the right numeral 2. But I have a feeling that is not what you're after?

OK, I was noticing the perf alignment, but it seems to be off on both stamps?


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Posted 05/01/2023   10:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It wasn't, but when it comes to stamps it can be almost anything.
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Posted 05/01/2023   6:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Andyrich74 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Noticed there seems to be a difference in the triangle to the upper/left of the left 2. Could be the scan though.
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Posted 05/01/2023   7:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just using the "toggle" route
both are identical, apart from the perforation locations.
What is immediately apparent, is a small black blemish above the N in Canada
on the lower stamp.
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Posted 05/07/2023   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From 1912 to 1929, a sheet-fed rotary wheel perforator was used to perforate Canadian coil stamps which were made from individual sheets that were cut into strips and pasted together so that the perforations are mostly unaligned across from each other. From 1912 to 1967, start and end blank coil tabs were also perforated this same way.

From 1930 onwards, a web-fed rotary bar perforator was used to perforate Canadian coil stamps which were made from web rolls that were cut into strips so that the perforations are mostly aligned across from each other. The only exception known so far are some Scott 239 and 240 varieties that have the perforations mostly unaligned across from each other just like the 1912 to 1929 coil stamps and the 1912 to 1967 start and end blank coil tabs.
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Posted 05/07/2023   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting. If US stamps, Scott likely would have listed the two types. For these, Scott has not. Does the Canada Specialty Catalog (Unitrade, I believe) separate them?

Again an example of production knowledge answering the "why" as to what is different.

Nice!

Edit: Scooted scoot to Scott.
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Posted 05/08/2023   07:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They are not currently listed in the Scott/Unitrade Canada catalogue. They may be from coil waste since they were web-fed printed and sheet-fed perforated (instead of web-fed perforated).
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Posted 05/10/2023   08:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The regular coil stamp has a gauge of around 7.85 perforations per 2 cm vertically.
The variety coil stamp has a gauge of around 7.95 perforations per 2 cm vertically.
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Posted 02/01/2024   08:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Scott 239, 240, 263, 264, 266 with 240 showing different perforation pattern across.
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Posted 02/01/2024   7:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The most informative Canada pre 1951 stamp catalogue

WALSH
2024 BRITISH NORTH AMERICA
SPECIALIZED Stamp Catalogue
15th edition

Has all of those two Mufti coil varieties (2 cents brown and 3 cents red) listed as NSSC 193r and NSSC 194x.
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Edited by jogil - 02/01/2024 7:22 pm
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Posted 08/11/2024   12:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Here are some others to compare against each other.
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Went to the CSN stamp show in Mississauga last weekend and found that Roy's Stamps still has available Canada Scott/ Unitrade 239 and 240 mint coil pairs with this perforation variety for sale.
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