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Nevada Statehood 1964 Fake Cancel?

 
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Posted 05/05/2023   02:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add NicholasC to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Came across this in my mess of U.S. stamps:



The problem is the stamp issue date is July 22, 1964. I couldn't find a hit on PANTEX. This must be fake? I also dont' think the other postmark would have been used in this time period.
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Posted 05/05/2023   02:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe 1984 ?
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Posted 05/05/2023   02:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NicholasC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the side of the 6 is too straight for it to be an 8. And the oval is too tall. I would expect an 8 to have more similar top and bottom circles.
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Posted 05/05/2023   02:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could "PANTEX" refer to this place?

https://pantex.energy.gov/news/blog...village-born

If so, being small, a post office may not have had much business and its clerk may have forgotten to change the date after 20 July (at least two days).
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Posted 05/05/2023   02:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NicholasC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, it just might! The village existed until 1968. It talks about all kinds of businesses, except a post office, but there must have been one.
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Edited by NicholasC - 05/05/2023 02:58 am
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Posted 05/05/2023   06:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Someone forgot to change the date on the device, so it was off by a couple of days. Or someone accidentally sold a few examples a couple of days early; it would have been on hand a few days before the official fist day.
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Posted 05/05/2023   07:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The post office remained in operation until 1969, when it became a rural branch of the Amarillo post office.


https://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/entries/pantex
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Posted 05/05/2023   12:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Short answer:
Legitimate postal cancel from an open office, although at this point (and from only an envelope piece) it is impossible to tell whether this was a pre-dated early release or a clerk error. Being from a very small office about to be converted from 3rd class status to a rural branch, I would lean heavily toward this being a dating error.

Longer answer going into the weeds:
When I am generally curious about the dates of operation of a U.S. post office, I typically first go to the "U.S. Post Offices List" list on Jim Forte's website:
https://www.postalhistory.com/index.htm

Forte's list notes: Pantex, Carson County, Texas 1945-1969, (and is silent on the Rural Branch dates afterwards, see more below.)

If a year-date is not specific enough for me, then I go to original sources, in this case the "Postal Bulletin" to get the information directly from a primary source.

Forte's list and the previous posts here built a good roadmap. I was intrigued by an unposted sentence in the link rogdcam supplied above:

Quote:
A post office was established in November 1944 for the plant employees who lived in government housing nearby.

Interesting, since it is not corroborated by the Postal Bulletins, that I can find. Perhaps only a company's convenience desk and not anything actually sanctioned by the USPOD. Because ...

Postal Bulletin 18784, dated December 29, 1944, page 2: Notes the establishment of Pantex (a Pantex village), midway between Amarillo and Panhandle, TX, to be supplied by Star Route yet to be assigned a route number. I see no actual notice of the establishment of that star route to create Pantex's effective "opening date", but it was apparently in early 1945.

Postal Bulletin 18825, dated May 22, 1945: Pantex changed "from fourth class at $72 to third class at $1900 effective as of Apr 1, 1945."

Pantex continued along as a third class office until 1969, when...

Postal Bulletin 20702, dated May 29, 1969, page 7: Pantex relegated from 3rd class to 4th class.

Postal Bulletin 20705, dated, June 12, 1969, page 5: Class-change order rescinded and Pantex instead made a rural branch of Amarillo effective June 12.

The quote posted by rogdcam has curious phrasing, no doubt written by a non-collector!

Quote:
The post office remained in operation until 1969, when it became a rural branch of the Amarillo post office.


To nitpick, it could have been better phrased as "The Pantex post office transitioned from a third class office to a Rural Branch of Amarillo in 1969 (and continued to serve patrons until it finally closed in 1980)". The average patron would not notice behind-the-scenes classification changes.

Postal Bulletin 21269, dated October 30, 1980, page 13: Pantex, then with a status of "CPO" (Contract Post Office) is closed and the CPO and Zip Code discontinued.





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Posted 05/05/2023   6:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
At one time Linn's ran up dates of EKUs of new issues which predated the official first day of sale. They are not valuable, but quite uncommon, and I see no reason to think this is anything but that. With over 30,000 individual post offices all run by imperfect humans, one human every now and then will sell before the sell by date. The OP gets my credit for noticing this fun find.

As to clerks and date errors on dating stamps, my favorite, meaning I own it, is a one cent parcel post stamp on a post card clearly cancelled in a seasonal resort town post office as Aug 16, 1912. Obviously the PM failed to up date the year from "2" to "3" for the season, since the essay designs for the 2 cent or any other value of parcel post stamp were not yet begun in August 1912, let alone printed and available for use.

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Posted 05/05/2023   10:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NicholasC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone. I'm glad to have this in my collection. I plan to mount on it's own page with a small writeup.
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