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Posted 05/23/2023   10:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Their address, phone numbers and Email is on the inside of the cover page. Someone there will know who to contact, if someone hasn't already contacted them about the error(s).
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Posted 05/23/2023   11:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tsmatx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Noblespirit ( ebay shovelware dealer) has a pretty nifty video of their world headquarters. Basically a big old house with a conveyor belt installed. I'm actually kind of curious what other ebay operations look like--how much space is dedicated to it: how much storage, how much work space.

Speaking of Kelleher's Collector Quarterly: I do receive it since I am a customer. But never really read it, I assumed it was just ads and fluff. But I wanted to check out what is referenced here and couldn't find the print issue. Surprised to see Kelleher charges $29.95/year for it and apparently is not available online (for free or not). Redirects to SAN to charge for dead tree subscription.

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Posted 05/23/2023   11:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add landoquakes to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks tsmatx for sharing that video... I like the pile of penny reds.
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Posted 05/24/2023   12:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I assumed it was just ads and fluff.


It is actually a very well put together publication with in-depth and well researched articles. Better than the American Philatelist IMO.
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Posted 05/24/2023   02:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Surprised to see Kelleher charges $29.95/year for it


Bidders or successful bidders get it for free. The articles have been written by some of the better philatelic authors. But I must agree that the editing leaves something to be desired at time which should be read as has mistakes at times.
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Posted 05/24/2023   08:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essay_proof to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
+1 to rogdcam's endorsement. But yes, the editing has much to be desired.
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Posted 05/24/2023   09:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wkusau to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I also like the Kelleher magazine.

From the Kelleher web site:

Commencing in 2023, Kelleher has established a four-issue annual subscription so that you can continue enjoying this award-winning publication that you have come to know and respect. Enrollment is simple and economical. We are pleased to offer three subscription options:

$29.95 One Year Subscription Print (4 magazines mailed to Domestic address includes Digital for all magazines.)
59.95 One Year Subscription Print (4 magazines mailed to International address includes Digital for all magazines.)
$15.95 One Year Digital Subscription (valid for all magazines for one year from date of purchase.)
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Posted 05/24/2023   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oracle of Delphi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As Parcelpostguy noted, I believe you do get the mag for free if you participate in their auctions. I hadn't bid for a while so my subscription lapsed. After I won a few lots in one of their auctions last year, I have been receiving the hardcopy again.
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Posted 05/24/2023   4:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As an active buyer, I get the magazine, too. I recognize a bunch of the authors as being independent of Kelleher - philatelists with a bunch of expertise in one or a few fields. The articles tend to dig deep into a subject, and devote more space to fleshing out the subject than you will see in Linn's, certainly, and even the AP, most likely. I don't know whether the AP limits space for an article, or if the typical AP contributor is just espouses less.

I remember back in the day when David Coogle didn't have the best of reputations (if you don't know the story, look it up. No need to go into it here.) and I have remembered that all these decades. I worked in the field in the 1980's when the mess was hitting the fan, and it irked me that one person could give an entire industry a black eye. I don't (well, I haven't yet, anyway) forget. It grinds me that I have to buy stuff from Kelleher because of it all. Having said all that, it appears that he has cleaned up his act, that he is one of the top 2 or 3 auctioneers and that he gets the rare material, and that a bunch of people that I have infinite respect for either work for him or contribute somewhat regularly to the magazine. I begrudgingly admit that the magazine contributes positively to the hobby and knowledge base.
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Posted 05/24/2023   4:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So I actually went and looked at my Kelleher's Stamp Collector's Quarterly, 2nd Quarter 2023.

The images issues noted, the warehouse and animal description are both in the articles of the two author's and not the mistakes of Kelleher. That said, the warehouse photo likely tripped up the doctor who wrote the article.

As to the Belgian Congo article, both types of antelope are present in the article with there being no reference to the Bongo photo which was labeled as Okapi. Here as the author made no reference I think it was a during layout photo grab mistake by whoever did the layout. I also note that the figure captions and text references seem a bit awkward and not done by the author. I too was victimized by that poor editing or layout in a previous issue.

I am a bit surprised give who the managing and associate editors are for the publication. (listed on page for of the reference issue.
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Posted 05/24/2023   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I remember back in the day when David Coogle didn't have the best of reputations (if you don't know the story, look it up. No need to go into it here.) and I have remembered that all these decades. I worked in the field in the 1980's when the mess was hitting the fan, and it irked me that one person could give an entire industry a black eye. I don't (well, I haven't yet, anyway) forget. It grinds me that I have to buy stuff from Kelleher because of it all. Having said all that, it appears that he has cleaned up his act, that he is one of the top 2 or 3 auctioneers and that he gets the rare material, and that a bunch of people that I have infinite respect for either work for him or contribute somewhat regularly to the magazine. I begrudgingly admit that the magazine contributes positively to the hobby and knowledge base.


Mooter - You are channeling my thoughts exactly. I will also mention that Greg manning is a regular contributor with his own story from the past.

In point of fact there are a surprising number of big names that are still working at the top of the auction market who have some pretty ugly histories if you do some research. Philatelists are either a very forgiving bunch or time just makes it all fade away.
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Posted 05/24/2023   5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rogdcam, you are right with your remarks. There are a lot of stamp dealers with a lot of 'splainin' to do when it all comes to being accountable. The only reason I singled out Mr Coogle is because of the subject matter at hand. I don't know what it is about stamp dealing/collecting that causes people to go 'off road' with their moral compasses, but I fully expect that the bottom line on that is, in fact, the bottom line. One of the oldest motivators - greed. It just seems to me that, historically, stamp dealers have given into that urge more than many other professionals. Don't know why, and I don't dare venture a guess. Ultimately, it just is what it is.
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Posted 05/24/2023   7:44 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Has he really changed, or is he just really good at marketing?

As for Manning's articles, they are a non-stop bragathon.

Otherwise there are some good articles.

my usual typos fixed
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Posted 05/24/2023   10:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You have to know these old guys who have been in the business ,even if they have questionable dealings in the past . These old timers know were all the treasures are buried ,they been auctioneers or dealers who sold to the biggest buyers .

They known who got what .

Any firm wants them around because they are "rain makers " they already got the connections for the big buyers of the past who will become the big name sellers of the future .

Why as a stamp buyer your going to run around the U.S. buying up $5,000 or $10,000 collections when you got a person who are friends with someone who got that $200,000 to $1,000,000 inventory ?

These guys like Gregg Manning , David Coogle ,Stanley Richmond and Michael Rogers are the guys you want around because they know who got what .

Look what happen at Kelleher when they had that $600,000 catalog worldwide collection up for auction ,it was purchased by a retired 90 year old who seen it and knew what it was worth and most likely already had old long term buyers of his willing to buy from him . Just like last month at Schuyler Rumsey with the WESTPEX auction another $600,000 collection hit the auction ,it also went to a old timer auctioneer who had a list of buyers ,these people have connections that is why firms are interested in keeping them around with or without a clean past .
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Posted 05/24/2023   10:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
floortrader - interesting observations.


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Philatelists are either a very forgiving bunch or time just makes it all fade away.


Not forgotten, certainly.

I might buy, carefully, here and there, when I'm sure of what I'm buying. Nutmeg was a hot mess; I finally gave up buying from them. Kelleher seems to be better so far.

Trusting my material with a consignment to them would be a different matter entirely.
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