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Posted 06/17/2023   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cul_Lector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
nice stamp I recently acquired from Romania. The stamp is flat. I took it at an angle with my cell.
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Posted 06/17/2023   10:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is a fake. This seller sells fake overprinted stamps exclusively. Did you wonder why you paid pennies on the dollar for a multi-thousand-dollar stamp?

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Posted 06/17/2023   11:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And sells the fake overprints with fake Shanghai cancels too.

Edited to add "Shanghai" above.
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Edited by Parcelpostguy - 06/17/2023 11:39 pm
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Posted 06/18/2023   10:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cul_Lector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I thought I was getting a lucky break. I guess not. Thank you for letting me know. P.T. Barnum was right. There is a sucker born every minute, and I"m that sucker..
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Posted 06/18/2023   11:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That seller is now why I will never buy one of these without it having a certificate. He has flooded the market with these.

Go look at the seller's "completed history and see the large quantity he has moved.
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Posted 06/18/2023   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gizzmo4222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Who is the seller and is there a link to his site ?
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Posted 06/18/2023   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Edited for these completed listings from the past 90 days. Seller only shows sold, scrubs the unsold from the results.Has been peddling these for a long time. Seller ID damby119 from Romania.












For Searches: Fake, bad, fraudulent Shanghai, Darrah overprints sold on ebay.
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Edited by Parcelpostguy - 06/18/2023 3:29 pm
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Posted 06/18/2023   3:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Strange but true. Buyers
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Posted 06/18/2023   4:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chesham85 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Or you can buy the same stamp except 3 cents with the inverted Shanghai overprint but the same fake cancel from his alter ego, at least a different seller name of maxfan1985.




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Edited by Chesham85 - 06/18/2023 4:04 pm
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Posted 06/18/2023   5:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the completed listing from maxfan1985 in Romania on ebay:








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Posted 06/20/2023   6:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add southpaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is a very interesting thread for me. I've been meaning to send a number of these off for certification. At the Knoxville show in March I purchased Shanghai cancels and Darrah overprints on Parcel Post from a retiring dealer. All of them are used. The Darrahs all have a fairly "thick" ink overprint, which is different type of ink from the cancellations, which is more typical of thin pad ink. About half of the Darrahs are of the blue ink variety. Uploaded here include two close-up scans where you can see the differences in the inks between the overprints and the cancellations. The Q1 is only S'HAI type I have. Only one of the Darrahs I have has a similar CDS cancel to the majority of the Romanian fakes. It is different however. This one is also one of the blue overprints, inverted.







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Posted 06/20/2023   6:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd send them all in for certificates southpaw. It is getting to the point where a good cert is needed to sell one of these at close to its proper price. Me? I know much about Parcel Post and Parcel Post Postage Due but I will not offer an opinion on any of these Darrah overprints and will only buy them with a certificate should I actually want one. My preference would be on cover examples, which while expensive fit best with my postal history interest in PP/PPPD stamps.
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Posted 06/20/2023   7:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 06/20/2023   7:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 06/20/2023   10:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
See: https://goscf.com/t/82385&SearchTerms=lot,233 for more information on Darrah Shanghai overprints.

The part 2 Magnolia lot 298 (your link revcollector), the wrapper was nice but does not rate. Parcel Post was 12 cents per pound so at 75 cents it is over paid by 3 cents. If the blue numbers indicate registration, 75 less 10 cents leave 65 which is 1 cent overpaid at 2 cents per ounce first class. Perhaps it will avail itself to me at a later date.

What I needed was lot 233 in part 4 Sale 1271 showing return postage on a mass of parcel post being return to Shanghai as refused by the mainland recipient. It however does not involve Darrah stamps. It can be found here: https://goscf.com/t/82687

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Posted 06/21/2023   4:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add southpaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the comments and links. Unfortunately nothing new from when I did my original Google queries a couple of months ago. I only have a short-wave UV, and nothing "lit up". This afternoon I sent off a number of them to the PF. Fingers crossed.
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