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Looking For A Huge 19th Century Ww Collection? This One Is Only $45,000

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Posted 06/21/2023   11:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looking at other reviews about the content, I was not taking this serious.

txtstamp's comment is correct. Reading the lowest ratings is good fun.
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Edited by NSK - 06/21/2023 11:05 am
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Posted 06/21/2023   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The book appears to essentially be about "getting rich quick." His reviews on HipStamp are likewise unflattering, with an 82% positive rate.
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Posted 06/21/2023   7:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If memory serves me correctly there are some posts that have disappeared.
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Posted 06/21/2023   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rog- I see that as well, but no posts with meaningful info focused on the original topic were removed.
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Posted 06/21/2023   7:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Rog- I see that as well, but no posts with meaningful info focused on the original topic were removed.


Wonder why they were removed. Must have violated the forum rules? Hard to know if they were "meaningful" if they are gone.
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Posted 06/24/2023   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Hard to know if they were "meaningful" if they are gone.


Perhaps the deleted posts were just factual stuff which made the lister referenced in the OP look bad and the lot on HIP not worth a review.

It was pointed out the lister claimed to use HIP for twice as long as HIP has been around (That fact was copied from the lister's HIP info.)

The posted cjpalermo1964 link of the forgery sale had the text copied and pasted here for all to read.

It was pointed out that the "story scam" has been around for many, many years, and may have even mentioned not only a German Baron but a French Barron/noble was used for the story.

Even Eric Jackson knew from memory the fraudster's story and APF organization today on the phone while discussing a different SCF topic.

But of course, none of those are, "...no posts with meaningful info focused on the original topic..." which was, "I personally find a number of things about this offer to be perhaps dodgy and will enjoy reading other opinions...." HOWEVER if this is a fraudster posting, a fraudster who even listed forgeries, why even think the one illustration in the OP is reflective of the collection rather it is a false vehicle to further the fraud. "Oh brother... hoping no one responds in aid of a scammer" seems to be surprising piece of advice being overlooked here as any discussion giving the listing veracity will aid the HIP scammer, by giving the fraudster's photo undue and unearned weight. No, the stamps in the photo are to be considered as fake as the photo.

Did that cover what you seemed to remember rogdcam?
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Posted 06/24/2023   7:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Did that cover what you seemed to remember rogdcam?


Yes, it did PPG.
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Posted 06/24/2023   8:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rog, as we separate facts from bloviations, it should be pointed out that the seller could have been truthful when discussing the length of their relationship with HipStamp. One of the posts that was deleted opined that the seller could not have a relationship with HipStamp as long as stated in the lot description, given that HipStamp started in 2015. In the screenshot below of my feedback page, please notice that the last feedback on this page is dated 9/27/2009. How did I get feedback on HipStamp in 2009 if HipStamp only started in 2015? Note the correct Hip logo and web address is included, thus this is verifiably from HipStamp.:




Next, here is another screenshot of the bottom of my oldest feedback page, again with the correct website address evident. Note here that my oldest feedback is from 2006. Hip started in 2015? It started at least 9 years before that.



Lastly, here is a another screenshot of my earliest feeback, but enlarged for those members of the forum who have difficulty reading and perhaps remembering dates and such.



edited for larger font, again to assist those who have difficulty reading dates
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Edited by shermae - 06/24/2023 8:39 pm
Bedrock Of The Community
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Posted 06/24/2023   8:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the feedback dates are out of whack. I don't see how they tie to the seller's direct claim though that:


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I have been putting up stamp auctions starting with Hip for over 20 plus years.


That is what is called a lie if indeed Hip has not existed for twenty years. One strike.

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Posted 06/24/2023   8:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
IIRC, Hipstamps previously operated under a different name and some of the old data was transferred to the new site when it launched. This could cause the odd dates and the confusion about how long someone had been operating on the site.
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Posted 06/24/2023   9:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't say it was likely, but given that 2015 was provided "authoritatively" as the factual start date of HipStamp in one of the deleted posts, I thought it pertinent to mention and correct it. Obviously, I posted this thread so we could all discuss a cynically interesting lot on one of the major stamp-purchasing sites. For the most part, we've had great input from some folks!
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Posted 06/24/2023   9:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PostmasterGS is correct, Hipstamp used to be a different name. (Stamphead maybe?) then after several years rebranded themselves as hipstamp.
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Posted 06/24/2023   10:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rhett to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
IIRC, HipStamp's predecessors were StampWants and BidStart. Not sure of dates for each but Stampwants was first, followed by BidStart and then HipStamp.
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Posted 06/25/2023   12:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Me thinks we are becoming wrapped around the axle on a tangential component of the Pimpernel big picture.
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Posted 06/25/2023   06:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sigh. The ONLY posts I removed were a dust up between 2 people in which Staff received multiple complaints. There were a total a of 9 posts only ONE of which could be argued contributed any of value to the thread (but also continued the bickering). I know this because I saved these posts and just re-reviewed them.

From a forum moderating standpoint, there were much better long term solutions such as simply deleting the entire thread and/or locking accounts of people who create the largest staff time suck. Given this I would think that removing the 9 'dust up' posts was the least invasive.

Lastly, what is the point of whining about this in the public thread? If anyone had a question about missing posts, why not simply contact me privately or send a Note To Staff? Or was the point to piss on the community? (rhetorical questions).
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