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Stamp Certificate From PSE - Boy Does It Instill Trust. Not.

 
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Posted 07/09/2023   5:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
To be clear this has nothing to do with the seller listing this item, nor an issue with ebay.

Yes this is a certificate for a stamp issue of the USA, but one does not need to know USA stamps to see the issue here. Enjoy and I look forward to your comments.









Seller can count.





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Posted 07/09/2023   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Where does the seller state it is a block of six? From what I can tell it was the folks at PSE ?


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Posted 07/09/2023   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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To be clear this has nothing to do with the seller listing this item, nor an issue with ebay.


Above is the opening line to this thread. Next, I never said the seller states it is a block of 6. I said the "seller can count" in as much as the seller specified in the listing title, "[4]" to indicate a block of 4 of 833 thus showing the seller counted correctly.

As to correctly counting, PSE, not so much.

Edit: To add quote and related text regarding the quote.
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Posted 07/09/2023   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It should have said "Block of six if you count all of those rectangular pieces of paper surrounded by those punched holes but only a block of four if you just include the papers with the President's picture on them".

Or not.
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Posted 07/09/2023   7:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add uboatnut to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Even though the cert is from 2009, the seller should consider sending the stamp and cert back to PSE to correct their obvious mistake, Hopefully, they would do this for no charge or return shipping charge, but call/email them first.
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Posted 07/09/2023   7:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, rogdcam, or perhaps counting the two plate numbers printed on the gum side as two more stamps. Your version would be best described as a block of 6 with two albino (ink missing) stamps.

As do most expertizing service, PSE, charges based upon catalog value; so did they charge based upon a block of 6 or 4?

After 14 years, PSE still should correct the cert for free.
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Posted 07/09/2023   8:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sheetguy2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Parcelpostguy --- have you ever made a mistake? From this post you
probably would say "no"".....mistakes happen, this is not life or death.
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Posted 07/09/2023   9:56 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"As do most expertizing service, PSE, charges based upon catalog value; so did they charge based upon a block of 6 or 4?"

In this case the charge would have been he same whether it was a block of 4 or 6 as the valie if the stamps is so low it would have gotten the minimum charge in either case.
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Posted 07/09/2023   10:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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...After 14 years, PSE still should correct the cert for free.


LOL
Agreed, and lets also start listing every mistake that the other cert organizations have made in the last dozen+ years AND also ask them to go back and fix every mistake they have ever made... and while they are at it, they should also fix their databases.

And then when certs then cost us all $125 each, we can all meet at ParcelPost's house and celebrate our victory.
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Posted 07/09/2023   10:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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In this case the charge would have been he same whether it was a block of 4 or 6 as the valie if the stamps is so low it would have gotten the minimum charge in either case.


Don't have a 2009 Specialized handy but for 2021 it is $85 verses $117.



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have you ever made a mistake? From this post you
probably would say "no"".....mistakes happen, this is not life or death.


Of course I have. That is why for published work (not internet posting) one uses an editor after peer review. As to life and death, I agree, not stamp error is life nor death it is just a money mistake be it a $1, $10, $100, $1000, $10,000, $100,000, or a million or three. They are just slips of paper upon which disposable money is spent.

For my life or death writing or editing, I had even more review before the final version was released.

Now my thread's point is when errors that are (or should be) obvious to an expert committee, how many mistakes are made when such is not obvious. There are loads of threads with certs disagreeing on perforations, hinging and other aspects of a stamp.

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Posted 07/10/2023   7:44 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Don't have a 2009 Specialized handy but for 2021 it is $85 verses $117."

An difference that is irrelevant to the cost of the cert. They charge less than 10%, so even $117 is under $12, but their minimum charge is over $20, so in either case you pay their minimum charge.
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